Boring_People Chat 7, Part 3 (08.21.10)

Cast of Characters, In Order of Appearance Angel, AKA angelcerv25 me, AKA glowing_dragon NyquilSteve317 or nyquilsteve317 Emily Susan or ellysusan081 Mikaela, AKA embryogirl Mike, AKA spinpsychle GoldBalloon, AKA a chat infiltrator! MyCrisisX, AKA x_luminescence AKA Crystal julieiskeygrace, AKA Julie (keygrace) PrettyKitty51015, AKA Lauren (laurentums) Marsha, AKA bluemarz04 [21:52:21] PrettyKitty51015: I've heard both ways. Some people prefer the close-knit, some prefer the barely known shell of a person they can throw to the side when done. [21:52:32] angelcerv21: aussies seem a bit strange [21:52:35] angelcerv21: maybe they [21:52:39] guaaaache: why? [21:52:40] angelcerv21: are just more sexually liberated [21:52:48] angelcerv21: in the states, we are scared of sex [21:52:51] guaaaache: I'm really not interested in either [21:52:52] angelcerv21: yeah there's porn and such [21:52:56] PrettyKitty51015: Everyone is scared of sex. [21:53:02] PrettyKitty51015: It's astounding and bothersome. [21:53:07] guaaaache: I don't think you can really generalise [21:53:07] angelcerv21: but it says a lot when the government will only pay for abstinence-only sex ed [21:53:10] guaaaache: some people are exactly like that here too [21:53:20] PrettyKitty51015: exactly. [21:53:36] angelcerv21: and we wonder why our STD and pregnancy rates are skyrocketing [21:53:41] PrettyKitty51015: true. [21:53:56] PrettyKitty51015: we're the sheltered child striving to do things that aren't allowed. [21:53:59] angelcerv21: no one knows, especially the young ones, what proper and safe sex is when you don't want to be abstinant [21:54:10] angelcerv21: what stds look like [21:54:16] angelcerv21: which ones can be cured and not cured [21:54:19] angelcerv21: what a female condom is [21:54:25] angelcerv21: kids don't know this shit! [21:54:28] PrettyKitty51015: They don't, and it's sad. [21:54:29] angelcerv21: so i teach my youth a lot [21:54:32] guaaaache: a lot of people don't know that here either [21:54:34] angelcerv21: at my youth center [21:54:38] angelcerv21: make sure they have condoms [21:54:44] angelcerv21: know where planned parenthood is [21:54:55] PrettyKitty51015: I think it's necessary to do so. [21:54:56] angelcerv21: what is sex ed like in australia? [21:55:11] angelcerv21: this song.... [21:55:20] angelcerv21: my nuns didn't let me go to sex ed [21:55:34] angelcerv21: i think not out of morality, but out of the fact i wasn't male or female and they divide the groups [21:55:40] angelcerv21: they didn't want me to be a part of it at all [21:56:16] PrettyKitty51015: That's somewhat sad. They could've shown both. [21:56:40] angelcerv21: well, a little later father carson told me a little about what they were teaching, and how it was inapproriate for me [21:56:45] angelcerv21: because i can't relate to being exclusively male or female [21:57:01] guaaaache: we did have sex ed but it was pretty brief. don't know what it's like now [21:57:01] guaaaache: I barely remember, I was like 11. I think we just went through what happens in puberty [21:57:02] guaaaache: some things on sex and pregnancy [21:57:03] guaaaache: I started puberty really early though so a lot of it wasn't that new [21:57:03] guaaaache: I'd already had my first period when we were going through all those classes [21:57:06] angelcerv21: i think i was 14 when he told me about condoms [21:57:25] angelcerv21: wow, before 11? [21:57:40] guaaaache: what? we didn't get separated at all! we all stayed in the one room and learned everything [21:59:19] angelcerv21: they were horrified [21:59:12] angelcerv21: because I came home and knew how to cook crack on a spoon [21:59:01] angelcerv21: so father carson said "these are condoms," and I bet you already know what can happen with dangerous sex practices" [21:58:53] PrettyKitty51015: Why didn't they let you sit through that? [21:58:34] guaaaache: especially when learning about periods [21:58:27] angelcerv21: same with the DARE program - the drug thing. they didn't let me sit through that [21:58:16] guaaaache: the boys were immature [21:58:12] angelcerv21: and made to sit in the library [21:58:12] guaaaache: I think I would have preferred that [21:58:03] angelcerv21: so I was pulled right out [21:57:56] angelcerv21: they would separate the boys and girls here [21:57:50] PrettyKitty51015: oh, they separate us here. [21:59:44] angelcerv21: to them the drug education was much worse than the sex ed. They only pulled me out of sex ed because I wasn't male or female, and didn't want me to feel more alienated [22:00:13] angelcerv21: by the time i finally figured out what actual intercourse was, I had figured it out in the library reading smut novels [22:00:15] angelcerv21: i was 13 [22:00:32] angelcerv21: at 14, father carson gave me condoms, but I wasn't sure what good they would be for me [22:00:50] angelcerv21: i did my own sex ed most of the time, father carson encouraged me to do the research [22:01:09] PrettyKitty51015: hmm [22:01:10] angelcerv21: i think they were pretty nervous about it [22:01:25] angelcerv21: they felt no matter how they could teach me about sex ed, it would still alienate me somehow [22:01:33] guaaaache: I think sex ed should be taught way earlier [22:01:37] guaaaache: like, age 6? [22:01:40] angelcerv21: mother superior did say at one point, be very careful. Give your love where it's due [22:01:49] angelcerv21: and i think that made the most sense [22:02:00] angelcerv21: i don't know.... at 6, they don't know shit [22:02:04] PrettyKitty51015: you'd be surprised.. [22:02:09] angelcerv21: true [22:02:10] PrettyKitty51015: my aunt works at an elementary school [22:02:17] guaaaache: I believe they should know, that's my point [22:02:32] angelcerv21: some argue that the earlier, the better [22:02:38] guaaaache: partly, it would help with sexual abuse, etc. [22:02:39] PrettyKitty51015: she's seen girls with their hands down their pants totally playing with this new thing that gives them sensations they're unfamiliar with. [22:02:41] angelcerv21: the more likely they're going to be safe and smart about it [22:02:52] PrettyKitty51015: I think it should be taught as early as possible. [22:02:55] angelcerv21: i was masturbating at a very young age too [22:02:58] PrettyKitty51015: She teaches 3rd grade. [22:03:03] PrettyKitty51015: As was I. [22:03:12] angelcerv21: i would masturbate in 1st 2nd 3rd grade [22:03:24] guaaaache: and children might be better able to articulate what happened to them if they're abused [22:03:29] guaaaache: that's often a big problem, they don't entirely understand what's happening or whether or not it's normal [22:03:33] PrettyKitty51015: I agree. [22:03:39] angelcerv21: couple times, i got caught by my teacher, but i didn't see it as sexual yet. I just wanted "that feeling" because it felt good [22:04:01] PrettyKitty51015: That's how it always starts... [22:04:06] angelcerv21: so yeah the ignorance factor - removing that is smart [22:04:17] angelcerv21: i would need both hands [22:04:20] angelcerv21: to masturbate [22:04:27] guaaaache: why? [22:04:28] angelcerv21: so that made me more obvious [22:04:35] guaaaache: oh wait [22:04:38] guaaaache: nevermind [22:04:40] guaaaache: ha [22:04:41] PrettyKitty51015: lol [22:04:50] PrettyKitty51015: intriguing. [22:04:51] angelcerv21: well, I liked being able to hold my penis with one hand and my other hand playing with my opening [22:05:00] angelcerv21: i still masturbate like that [22:05:01] guaaaache: yeah, I realised after I asked [22:05:08] guaaaache: I don't masturbate at all [22:05:29] angelcerv21: i didn't get in trouble till i started taking boys and girls from the playground and making them take off their pants in second grade [22:05:32] angelcerv21: i had to see what they had [22:05:48] angelcerv21: the girls would get all fussy [22:06:00] angelcerv21: the boys, i'd have to wrestle down or bribe [22:06:10] angelcerv21: but i learned [22:06:14] PrettyKitty51015: haha [22:06:22] angelcerv21: i knew at 7, something was very wrong with me [22:06:40] angelcerv21: at least it felt that way, because i had girls parts and boys parts, and none of them looked like me! [22:06:58] PrettyKitty51015: well that's understandable. At 7, I wouldn't expect anything different. [22:06:59] guaaaache: must have been very lonely [22:07:15] angelcerv21: yeah, aggravating too [22:07:34] angelcerv21: I went into the nurse's office one day and took off my clothes, and demanded that she explain [22:07:46] PrettyKitty51015: aww [22:07:55] angelcerv21: when she gave me that used-up line "you're special," I flipped out [22:08:33] angelcerv21: so i got in more trouble making the other kids take their clothes off, and mother superior was horrified and i got my first suspension from school [22:08:53] angelcerv21: but then I was taken to the doctor who tried to lay it out for me and my 7-year-old brain [22:09:03] angelcerv21: doctors are my first memories [22:09:12] angelcerv21: being on tables with them checking out the area between my legs [22:09:29] PrettyKitty51015: wow. [22:09:35] angelcerv21: that was when i first heard the word "intersex," and was called that [22:09:43] angelcerv21: so I said what does it mean [22:09:51] angelcerv21: they said it's like i'm a little of both [22:09:57] angelcerv21: lots of types of intersex [22:10:06] angelcerv21: but i was special because i had girl parts and boy parts [22:10:10] angelcerv21: they really said it like that, too [22:10:23] angelcerv21: i hated hearing that i was "special" [22:10:30] angelcerv21: it bugged me, i felt like there had to be a meaning to it [22:10:36] PrettyKitty51015: yeah. [22:10:37] angelcerv21: they said my DNA was different [22:10:43] guaaaache: it is rather ambiguous [22:11:05] angelcerv21: i didn't know what they meant, so they said DNA is what makes a human and mine is special it's not girly or boyish [22:11:07] angelcerv21: they lost me there [22:11:25] angelcerv21: I'm XY/XO, by the way [22:11:28] PrettyKitty51015: hard to grasp... [22:11:28] angelcerv21: turner's [22:11:40] guaaaache: oh I know what turner's is [22:11:47] angelcerv21: yep that's me [22:12:04] guaaaache: weird how just hearing the title makes it easier to grasp [22:12:15] angelcerv21: they told me that was my condition [22:12:17] guaaaache: then the propositional network does its thing [22:12:20] angelcerv21: but that I was not damaged or diseased [22:12:27] angelcerv21: mother superior stressed this more than ever [22:12:33] angelcerv21: some doctors wanted to operate on me [22:12:36] angelcerv21: make me a boy [22:12:38] guaaaache: I think that's a very good perspective [22:12:40] angelcerv21: make me a girl [22:12:53] guaaaache: did you ever want that? [22:13:00] angelcerv21: no [22:13:12] angelcerv21: when i got into puberty, i thought about it [22:13:17] guaaaache: did you want to be a boy or stay the way you were? [22:13:19] angelcerv21: more the chemical aspect [22:13:30] angelcerv21: i wanted to be a boy, but i wasn't turning into one [22:13:33] angelcerv21: that what turner's does [22:13:47] angelcerv21: shuts off testosterone receptors, you get kinda girly, your voice doesn't change [22:13:47] guaaaache: yeah [22:14:09] angelcerv21: so i started thinking about testosterone, but i haven't made up my mind yet [22:14:29] angelcerv21: i'm afraid of the side effects, how it will mix with my psych meds, the cost [22:14:45] angelcerv21: my doctor already said she's not willing to give it to me [22:14:50] PrettyKitty51015: Why's that? [22:14:54] angelcerv21: so i would have to find another doctor [22:14:55] guaaaache: what does your voice sound like? [22:15:04] angelcerv21: tenor [22:15:08] angelcerv21: i like to think [22:15:16] angelcerv21: umm, i've had voice practice [22:15:22] angelcerv21: training to lower it [22:15:40] angelcerv21: but it takes concentration [22:15:43] guaaaache: does it go unnoticed or not? because some guys have sort of high voices [22:15:50] angelcerv21: if i don't concentrate, my voice slides up in pitch when i talk [22:15:57] angelcerv21: you seen Boys Don't Cry? [22:16:07] guaaaache: no [22:16:08] angelcerv21: some people notice, some don't [22:16:13] PrettyKitty51015: I have. [22:16:21] angelcerv21: it's a move that is awesome, based on a true story [22:16:24] angelcerv21: a trans man [22:16:34] guaaaache: I think I have quite a deep voice, but still sounds feminine. I'm not sure [22:16:36] angelcerv21: i have a higher voice like the character in that movie [22:16:41] guaaaache: oh, I will definitely check it out, thank you [22:16:51] AlenaBrolxFlami: HIGHWAY TO HELL! [22:16:55] angelcerv21: if i were raised as a girl and lived as a girl, i would sound deep too, i think [22:16:55] AlenaBrolxFlami: I've heard of the movie [22:17:05] angelcerv21: highway to hell? [22:17:14] AlenaBrolxFlami: haha... AC/DC is on the radio now [22:17:19] angelcerv21: oh, hahahahaha [22:17:28] angelcerv21: puberty was fucking scary [22:17:44] guaaaache: yeah [22:17:44] angelcerv21: by the time i was 18, i had these fucking little A cup boobs [22:17:47] angelcerv21: they came late [22:18:15] angelcerv21: but by the time i was 14 i had fluids coming out of me that hadn't before and my bipolar started getting kooky [22:18:17] guaaaache: the beginning was bad for me, I got boobs quite early [22:18:20] angelcerv21: i was diagnosed at 9 [22:18:38] angelcerv21: i read somewhere girls are getting into puberty earlier and earlier [22:18:42] PrettyKitty51015: As did i... [22:18:50] PrettyKitty51015: They are. [22:18:51] angelcerv21: when? [22:19:01] guaaaache: when, to what? [22:19:12] angelcerv21: when did you get periods and breasts? [22:19:19] angelcerv21: oh god, I had hips by the time i was 15 [22:19:23] angelcerv21: hips!! [22:19:54] guaaaache: um, I think I had slight breasts when I was 10 and got my period when I was 11 [22:20:00] angelcerv21: wow [22:20:07] PrettyKitty51015: same... [22:20:09] PrettyKitty51015: actually [22:20:10] PrettyKitty51015: which is weird. [22:20:11] guaaaache: I heard the first period comes a year after breasts start developing [22:20:13] angelcerv21: that's what... 4th or 5th grade? [22:20:23] guaaaache: 5th and 6th [22:21:01] guaaaache: I felt weird though, and thought I was the only one who had my period, so I pretended to have no idea about it [22:21:03] angelcerv21: i think i have some kind of ovulation cycle, i swear. I have a partial fallopian tube, but no uterus and an ovoteste [22:21:19] angelcerv21: and i have discharge now... when that started happening, it was just a nightmare [22:21:20] PrettyKitty51015: I knew it was my period... I was a very mature 10-year-old... [22:21:39] guaaaache: I knew it was my period as well [22:21:43] angelcerv21: how? [22:21:48] angelcerv21: did they tell you about it? [22:21:52] guaaaache: just didn't want anyone else to know I'd had it already [22:21:53] angelcerv21: i would have freaked out [22:21:57] PrettyKitty51015: my family had mentioned it. [22:22:06] angelcerv21: mentioned? [22:22:06] PrettyKitty51015: no one in my family actually had a sit-down discussion [22:22:14] PrettyKitty51015: just a "hey, this may happen, just let us know when it does" [22:22:22] guaaaache: I knew what a period was, I don't remember how / why [22:22:30] angelcerv21: they knew i wouldn't have that [22:22:37] guaaaache: probably my mum told me at some point [22:22:44] PrettyKitty51015: I don't even remember who told me. [22:22:58] PrettyKitty51015: lol but as soon as it happened, a phone call was made and I was stocked up on provisions. [22:23:00] PrettyKitty51015: lol [22:23:18] angelcerv21: i read books about human development and everything, but it was always about male / female. It was hard to find info about intersexed people [22:23:23] guaaaache: I stayed home from school for 2 days lol [22:23:25] guaaaache: I told my mum I'd do that every time I got my period from now on [22:23:36] angelcerv21: really? did she let you? [22:23:42] guaaaache: ahaha no! [22:23:57] angelcerv21: i figure having a period is hell [22:24:02] angelcerv21: blood, a week of it, pain [22:24:05] angelcerv21: good god [22:24:07] guaaaache: for me it's just annoying [22:24:07] PrettyKitty51015: my realization went as thus: "Oh crap, I'm going to have this for a long time starting now. great." [22:24:10] guaaaache: I don't really get cramps [22:24:29] PrettyKitty51015: Sometimes I cramp [22:24:26] guaaaache: it just smells bad and is messy [22:24:21] angelcerv21: most do, i hear [22:24:19] PrettyKitty51015: it varies... [22:24:19] angelcerv21: oh, that's good [22:24:42] angelcerv21: i know my now ex-gf would get bitchy and crampy and swollen [22:24:46] PrettyKitty51015: there's only been once or twice when I was crying and shivering because the pain was so bad. [22:24:56] PrettyKitty51015: alcohol seemed to be the only remedy... [22:24:59] PrettyKitty51015: which is awesome btw [22:25:05] angelcerv21: oh i bet [22:25:13] PrettyKitty51015: I'm irritable for a day [22:25:23] guaaaache: and the advertising for pads and tampons drives me crazy [22:25:23] guaaaache: they always take the 'HAVING YOUR PERIOD CAN ACTUALLY BE FUN' [22:25:25] guaaaache: no it fucking isn't [22:25:30] guaaaache: alcohol cures all, if only temporarily [22:25:32] angelcerv21: is it really true that chocolate helps? Of course, chocolate is so awesome, I would even eat it for pain or whatever [22:25:42] PrettyKitty51015: Chocolate doesn't help me.. [22:25:49] PrettyKitty51015: I don't actually want it most of the time, anyways... [22:25:51] PrettyKitty51015: Too sweet. [22:25:56] PrettyKitty51015: unless it's dark chocolate, then maybe a bite. [22:26:03] angelcerv21: mmmm it's my favourite food [22:26:05] guaaaache: but I heard it's actually better to refrain from consuming sugar, alcohol, or caffeine because it can make the symptoms worse for some people [22:26:20] angelcerv21: really? [22:26:23] angelcerv21: huh [22:26:34] angelcerv21: this is fascinating [22:26:34] PrettyKitty51015: The alcohol helps me only because it increases my blood flow. [22:26:41] angelcerv21: women really are the superior sex [22:26:55] PrettyKitty51015: And one drink calms the cramps enough to move. [22:27:05] guaaaache: I just like being drunk [22:27:08] angelcerv21: i drink alcohol for pain too [22:27:08] PrettyKitty51015: That too [22:27:15] angelcerv21: that's a timeless remedy [22:27:21] PrettyKitty51015: I'm a clingy drunk. [22:27:23] angelcerv21: whiskey is particularly good at quelling pain [22:27:29] PrettyKitty51015: I find someone and love them the rest of the night. [22:27:30] angelcerv21: clingy drunk? [22:27:34] angelcerv21: oh hahahaha [22:27:34] guaaaache: People are a lot easier for me to block out if I'm a bit drunk [22:27:36] PrettyKitty51015: I just want to hug and cling and nuzzle. [22:27:44] PrettyKitty51015: but it'll always be one person [22:27:50] angelcerv21: aw [22:27:54] angelcerv21: i miss affection [22:27:55] PrettyKitty51015: mostly friends... so they know. [22:28:03] PrettyKitty51015: I do too. [22:28:10] guaaaache: sometimes I've gone to my classes drunk [22:28:13] angelcerv21: i try to nuzzle with Mike, and he just wants to fuck me [22:28:15] guaaaache: I wonder if anyone knew [22:28:24] PrettyKitty51015: They may have... [22:28:24] angelcerv21: i let him once, actually put his penis in my opening [22:28:29] angelcerv21: which isn't really built for that.... [22:28:36] guaaaache: I remember that [22:28:50] guaaaache: the classes were unbearable and stressed me out, so I thought being drunk might help [22:29:00] guaaaache: I didn't get so drunk that I couldn't follow the lesson [22:29:02] angelcerv21: hahaha, really? I was so goddamn horny. He kept licking me and sucking me and doing all kinds of things to my parts [22:29:19] angelcerv21: you went to class drunk? I've only done that high [22:29:39] guaaaache: um, it was only once a week, these two classes I had on one day that were one after the other, I hated them [22:29:53] guaaaache: I didn't like the structure of the lessons or how we learned about things [22:29:54] angelcerv21: what were they? [22:29:58] guaaaache: it stressed me out [22:30:06] guaaaache: social and developmental psychology was the worst [22:30:10] guaaaache: the other was statistics [22:30:22] angelcerv21: i liked stats when i did it [22:30:35] angelcerv21: didn't like my teacher though [22:30:39] angelcerv21: i pretty much taught myself [22:30:41] guaaaache: the first class was on at 3 PM, so I had time to get drunk [22:30:52] PrettyKitty51015: I, sadly, haven't been to class in a long time and I miss it. [22:30:57] angelcerv21: that the hardest time of the day to be focused [22:31:05] angelcerv21: what do you do? [22:31:12] guaaaache: we had to do annoying socialisation activities all the time [22:31:24] PrettyKitty51015: Right now I'm between jobs. [22:31:28] angelcerv21: those are annoying [22:31:32] guaaaache: which I suck at and hate [22:31:35] angelcerv21: does that mean you're laid off? [22:31:40] angelcerv21: i hate it too [22:31:45] angelcerv21: i'm an independent learner [22:31:50] angelcerv21: and worker [22:31:51] PrettyKitty51015: No, it means I haven't quit the one I have to start training with the one I just got. [22:32:06] angelcerv21: i'm looking for work [22:32:09] angelcerv21: looking and looking [22:32:11] angelcerv21: nothing [22:32:20] PrettyKitty51015: I got really lucky with this one... [22:32:25] angelcerv21: yeah sounds like [22:32:30] guaaaache: I don't think it helped me learn. we had to play games for like an hour and a half [22:32:32] PrettyKitty51015: the one I have now was acquired through my brother... Hostessing... [22:32:49] PrettyKitty51015: But I applied at Books-A-Million like last week, and they called me within two days of finishing the application. [22:32:58] guaaaache: I need to go to the toilet, but I don't know if it's safe [22:32:59] angelcerv21: oh, i remember that [22:33:03] PrettyKitty51015: I'm excited because I'm around books all day... [22:33:06] PrettyKitty51015: :-) [22:33:07] guaaaache: ???? [22:33:10] angelcerv21: hahahaha, i was thinking the same thing [22:33:17] guaaaache: books are wonderful [22:33:21] guaaaache: but people are annoying [22:33:24] angelcerv21: yes [22:33:28] PrettyKitty51015: People are definitely annoying. [22:33:33] PrettyKitty51015: I get the run of the lot now. [22:33:39] guaaaache: "I'm looking for a book. it's red and has a horse on the cover" [22:33:48] guaaaache: "I don't know who wrote it" [22:34:04] angelcerv21: hmmm Black Beauty? [22:34:10] PrettyKitty51015: haha [22:34:14] guaaaache: hahahaha [22:34:16] angelcerv21: i read that when I was 9 or 10 and cried [22:34:26] guaaaache: I only saw the television series [22:34:41] angelcerv21: there was a tv series? [22:34:47] guaaaache: yeah [22:34:49] angelcerv21: strange, it's only one book [22:35:02] angelcerv21: they ought to do a harry potter series hahahahaha [22:35:04] PrettyKitty51015: Well, y'all... I'm going to possibly sleep now. [22:35:11] PrettyKitty51015: HARRY POTTER... I mean what? [22:35:22] angelcerv21: i loved harry potter [22:35:28] angelcerv21: it was my therapy, my escape [22:35:41] PrettyKitty51015: I'm waiting until it gets colder to go to The Wizarding World of HP in Orlando. [22:35:41] angelcerv21: in fact, i started to hate my world so much because Harry's looked so much better [22:35:50] angelcerv21: oh my god [22:35:53] angelcerv21: hahahahahahaha [22:36:00] PrettyKitty51015: Oh I'm lame, I know. [22:36:06] PrettyKitty51015: I need robes and a wand though. [22:36:09] angelcerv21: have you seen the HP rap video? [22:36:12] PrettyKitty51015: I have not. [22:36:26] guaaaache: I don't think the series is really based on the book [22:37:06] guaaaache: I am totally stuck up here now [22:37:11] PrettyKitty51015: HAHAHAHAHAHA [22:37:17] PrettyKitty51015: I'm not even 30 seconds in... [22:37:18] guaaaache: mmm:-( [22:38:24] angelcerv21: aw that sucks [22:38:34] angelcerv21: remodeling, how inconvenient [22:38:44] guaaaache: the top stair was just painted [22:39:02] guaaaache: but maybe I can actually walk on them, considering the guy painting them is [22:39:02] PrettyKitty51015: jump down it? [22:39:06] angelcerv21: if you go to the bathroom, hold your breath [22:39:17] angelcerv21: those fumes kill brain cells like video games [22:39:20] guaaaache: I already went in there twice :O and breathed [22:39:27] angelcerv21: hahahaha [22:39:52] PrettyKitty51015: hahaha [22:39:56] guaaaache: I'm not going to jump down! there's like 20 stairs :O [22:39:58] PrettyKitty51015: The rap HP was hilarious. [22:40:02] angelcerv21: sit on our facebook, hahahahaha [22:40:04] PrettyKitty51015: ... skip down them? [22:40:08] angelcerv21: great, huh? [22:40:09] PrettyKitty51015: tip toe? [22:40:11] AlenaBrolxFlami: careful [22:40:13] guaaaache: I'm still waiting for it to load [22:40:17] angelcerv21: oh there's alena [22:40:22] guaaaache: leslie, you are so random [22:40:22] angelcerv21: yeah my internet is being shitty [22:41:07] guaaaache: I can still hear those pokies omg :-* [22:41:12] AlenaBrolxFlami: I like being random, Mikaela [22:41:38] angelcerv21: what is butter beer? [22:41:46] guaaaache: lol I'm just amused because you don't talk for ages, and then say something occasionally [22:41:53] guaaaache: butter beer? don't know, but it sounds terrible [22:42:00] PrettyKitty51015: They're making it like butterscotch-flavored soda. [22:42:04] angelcerv21: really? i think it sounds kinda good [22:42:05] PrettyKitty51015: or something. [22:42:11] angelcerv21: that and pumpkin juice [22:42:17] PrettyKitty51015: I don't know what they're doing with the pumpkin juice, honestly. [22:42:20] guaaaache: OH ACTUALLY I DO KNOW WHAT IT IS [22:42:22] angelcerv21: oh darn don't like butterscotch [22:42:26] guaaaache: now that I've seen a picture [22:42:50] guaaaache: it's a warm beer with some butter in it and it looks like a milkshake [22:42:55] guaaaache: hold on [22:42:57] guaaaache: apparently it's not too bad [22:43:01] AlenaBrolxFlami: oh, haha. nice. [22:43:02] angelcerv21: what kind of beer? [22:43:10] PrettyKitty51015: warm beer? [22:43:14] PrettyKitty51015: *grimaces* [22:43:18] angelcerv21: yeah... [22:43:39] guaaaache: it's something they used to drink in england, maybe still do [22:44:04] guaaaache: it was on heston's feast [22:44:28] AlenaBrolxFlami: ew, warm beer [22:44:29] guaaaache: i'll find a video [22:45:05] guaaaache: regardez [22:45:31] PrettyKitty51015: oh.. [22:45:32] PrettyKitty51015: my... [22:45:42] PrettyKitty51015: AHHHHHHH I'm spoiling my HP experience!!! [22:46:02] guaaaache: HAHAHA I only just watched the Harry Potter rap [22:47:16] guaaaache: and I am addicted to Heston's feast [22:47:42] PrettyKitty51015: "Butterbeer.... very slight alcohol content and tastes a bit like less-sickly butterscotch"; it's carbonated, apparently tastes like cream soda with an extra thick layer of whipped cream on top. [22:47:48] PrettyKitty51015: this is straight from someone who came from HP land. [22:48:06] guaaaache: I can't remember if he ended up using it in the feast or not [22:48:14] PrettyKitty51015: They said the pumpkin juice tastes like mulled apple cider with spicy punches of cloves and cinnamon. [22:48:46] guaaaache: that sounds good [22:48:51] guaaaache: to me anyway [22:49:05] PrettyKitty51015: I totally cannot wait to go..... [22:49:23] PrettyKitty51015: Apparently for $30, I'll get my own wand. [22:49:53] guaaaache: I kind of want to make that butterbeer after watching that video [22:49:54] angelcerv21: phoenix feather on the inside? [22:50:06] angelcerv21: wizard street cred... [22:50:11] angelcerv21: butter beer forty's [22:50:15] angelcerv21: hahahaha [22:50:36] guaaaache: "the recipe sounds UTTERLY revolting..." [22:50:47] angelcerv21: how the black guys in the video have their glasses and push them up, hahahaha [22:51:03] angelcerv21: h piddy [22:51:04] angelcerv21: hahahaha [22:51:18] PrettyKitty51015: y'know... [22:51:27] PrettyKitty51015: the recepie doesn't sound revolting to me. [22:51:38] angelcerv21: sounds alright [22:51:42] angelcerv21: heard worse [22:51:46] guaaaache: me either but that's what he said [22:51:51] guaaaache: I think it looks good [22:51:51] PrettyKitty51015: exactly. [22:51:57] PrettyKitty51015: I think I want some now. [22:52:12] angelcerv21: can you get it at the HP convention? [22:52:24] PrettyKitty51015: get what? butterbeer? [22:52:28] PrettyKitty51015: oh it's not a convention... [22:52:36] angelcerv21: that and pumpkin juice [22:52:40] PrettyKitty51015: it's an actual set of attractions at Universal Studios... [22:52:46] angelcerv21: oh i heard about that [22:52:47] PrettyKitty51015: Oh yeah, you can get both. [22:52:56] PrettyKitty51015: They opened earlier this year... But it's too hot to go. [22:53:02] PrettyKitty51015: I'm waiting for cooler weather. [22:53:15] PrettyKitty51015: and crossing my fingers for the great hall. [22:53:26] PrettyKitty51015: I have such high hopes... [22:53:38] PrettyKitty51015: They even sort you into houses and everything. [22:54:08] angelcerv21: ooooh i know I would be put in slytherin or ravenclaw. I knew when i read the first book [22:54:29] PrettyKitty51015: I'd probably be Ravenclaw. [22:54:53] angelcerv21: i want someone to make me a harry potter scarf but with ravenclaw [22:54:57] angelcerv21: colors [22:55:00] PrettyKitty51015: I'll send you one! [22:55:04] PrettyKitty51015: A rreeeaallll one [22:55:05] PrettyKitty51015: :-) [22:55:11] angelcerv21: oh you were making those! [22:55:14] guaaaache: I wonder what happened to ... [22:55:21] PrettyKitty51015: no no, I'm not making them... [22:55:22] angelcerv21: hahahah i also ordered a gaga doll from [22:55:32] PrettyKitty51015: I'm going to buy them. [22:55:32] angelcerv21: remember ? [22:55:33] PrettyKitty51015: lol [22:55:35] angelcerv21: he's gone too [22:55:40] guaaaache: um, my internet died? [22:55:58] angelcerv21: was that gay guy [22:56:07] angelcerv21: he deleted his account out of the blue [22:56:16] angelcerv21: kinda miss him [22:56:53] PrettyKitty51015: Y'know I should learn how to knit or crochet or something... [22:57:02] angelcerv21: i've thought of that too [22:57:04] PrettyKitty51015: The jewelry-making bit isn't enough. [22:57:07] angelcerv21: i don't know who would teach me [22:57:09] guaaaache: oh yeah, I did wonder what happened to [22:57:14] PrettyKitty51015: Either that or metalwork... [22:57:16] angelcerv21: i make hemp jewelry [22:57:24] PrettyKitty51015: I make all sorts of jewelry, hemp included. [22:57:38] PrettyKitty51015: earrings, necklaces, bracelets, anklets... [22:57:39] angelcerv21: i haven't thought of other types of jewelry [22:57:43] angelcerv21: sell it at barter fair [22:58:02] PrettyKitty51015: I've only sold it to a few of my friends that know I make it. [22:58:05] AlenaBrolxFlami: I remember him [22:58:09] PrettyKitty51015: I made prom jewelry recently [22:58:11] PrettyKitty51015: it was fun... [22:58:12] angelcerv21: yeah he's been gone [22:58:16] AlenaBrolxFlami: like GAY gay, or just... not good gay? [22:58:18] angelcerv21: prom jewelry? [22:58:32] angelcerv21: no, he was a gay man, and he was with his boyfriend last i heard from him [22:58:32] guaaaache: never posts in boring people anymore [22:58:36] PrettyKitty51015: Made her a matching necklace / earring set. [22:58:51] angelcerv21: i remember her! [22:58:59] angelcerv21: yeah, been a while for her [22:59:00] guaaaache: she's on my friends list [22:59:08] angelcerv21: send her a note [22:59:13] guaaaache: but she never even comments in boring people [22:59:18] PrettyKitty51015: I haven't been around long enough to know all of these people you guys speak of. [22:59:22] guaaaache: well, she updates her own journal [22:59:33] angelcerv21: some people come and go [22:59:35] PrettyKitty51015: BP is my only friends list now. [22:59:41] angelcerv21: i wish had not deleted his account [22:59:46] guaaaache: there aren't many people from pre-spotlight times that I see anymore [22:59:51] angelcerv21: yeah [22:59:57] angelcerv21: except us hahahah [22:59:58] angelcerv21: nyquil [23:00:01] AlenaBrolxFlami: haha [23:00:02] PrettyKitty51015: I just have all BP stuff go to my inbox. [23:00:09] PrettyKitty51015: Makes it easier to read. [23:00:18] angelcerv21: that's interesting [23:00:23] angelcerv21: i filter my friends page [23:00:32] angelcerv21: look at communities and journals separately [23:00:32] guaaaache: used to not be a bitch [23:00:40] angelcerv21: because i know alena updates all the time [23:00:48] AlenaBrolxFlami: haha... I was gonna say :P [23:00:53] angelcerv21: so i have to have a separate viewing to accommodate her, hahahahaha [23:00:56] AlenaBrolxFlami: I update... a lot. [23:01:00] PrettyKitty51015: I don't have many friends that update anymore. [23:01:02] AlenaBrolxFlami: HAHAHAHA. thought so [23:01:13] PrettyKitty51015: They're so few and far between, it's not worth it. [23:01:23] angelcerv21: i've made many on BP mostly [23:01:30] guaaaache: and is less bitchy now [23:01:36] guaaaache: I think you update less now, alena [23:01:36] angelcerv21: some that don't [23:01:47] guaaaache: I remember people were pissed off about the 20 entries on ghost stories [23:01:50] angelcerv21: like this one guy who sends me messages a lot the past couple days [23:01:59] angelcerv21: he recently added me because he thought i looked cool and was good looking [23:02:15] angelcerv21: he feels androgynous and wants to take female hormones [23:02:41] guaaaache: androgyny ftw [23:02:54] angelcerv21: i think he's kind of hitting on me in some of his messages [23:03:06] AlenaBrolxFlami: there's a good reason for that, Mikaela... I think I got banned / can't post on there anymore [23:03:14] angelcerv21: what why????? [23:03:16] AlenaBrolxFlami: and yes, I remember the ghost stories [23:03:19] guaaaache: weird [23:03:20] angelcerv21: we need to clarify this with steve [23:03:20] guaaaache: where? on bp? [23:03:28] angelcerv21: yeah! [23:03:28] AlenaBrolxFlami: didn't you read that? or weren't we discussing this earlier? [23:03:35] angelcerv21: she hadn't come yet [23:03:43] guaaaache: Um, I don't know, just tell me anyway [23:03:55] AlenaBrolxFlami: oh yeah, that's right [23:04:27] guaaaache: so what happened? [23:04:34] AlenaBrolxFlami: okay... you know those name humor entries that I was posting? apparently, decided to be a bitch and post "make. it. stop." right before banning me / removing my posting access [23:04:59] guaaaache: is quite a bitch [23:05:10] guaaaache: I don't remember the humour entries, though [23:05:15] PrettyKitty51015: I was wondering what happened to those... [23:05:28] PrettyKitty51015: I browsed through them occasionally, and got a good laugh... [23:05:28] guaaaache: is like never around anyway [23:05:56] AlenaBrolxFlami: that's what I thought until she popped up in my last one [23:06:08] guaaaache: steve is the only mod who regularly posts [23:06:09] guaaaache: when did this happen, leslie? [23:06:18] angelcerv21: i fucking hate that bitch ! [23:06:33] AlenaBrolxFlami: a few days ago [23:06:47] angelcerv21: she never even checks out the community... she'll randomly show up and wreak havoc [23:06:58] angelcerv21: unfortunately, she made steve a mod, not the other way around [23:07:15] angelcerv21: oh my god... if i lost my bp, i'd have withdrawals [23:07:30] PrettyKitty51015: We could just make another one... [23:07:41] angelcerv21: there is bp2 i almost forgot about it [23:07:50] angelcerv21: people left it when the drama from died down the last time [23:07:55] guaaaache: my internet died again [23:07:56] AlenaBrolxFlami: did that, yeah [23:08:00] angelcerv21: but you're here [23:08:04] angelcerv21: yep [23:08:45] angelcerv21: i have an idea [23:08:47] guaaaache: so did I miss anything when my internet dropped out? [23:08:52] angelcerv21: but it's risky [23:08:52] angelcerv21: no [23:09:05] guaaaache: I didn't hear when leslie got banned [23:09:18] angelcerv21: i could make a post for alena - saying how glowing dragon is a staple on bp and it's bullshit she can't post [23:09:23] guaaaache: but I do hate for the same reason [23:09:36] angelcerv21: comments follow from others who agree.... [23:09:55] PrettyKitty51015: It could very well backfire, though.. [23:10:01] angelcerv21: i know [23:10:02] PrettyKitty51015: or she could stand her ground... [23:10:09] PrettyKitty51015: then we could... MOVE! lol [23:10:12] angelcerv21: then we leave and go to bp2 [23:10:16] PrettyKitty51015: Yeah. [23:10:17] angelcerv21: it's there still [23:10:34] angelcerv21: should we do it? [23:10:37] angelcerv21: I'll make the post [23:10:37] PrettyKitty51015: I say yeah. [23:10:41] angelcerv21: but you all gotta comment [23:10:48] PrettyKitty51015: I'm ready as soon as you post it. [23:10:51] AlenaBrolxFlami: do it [23:11:02] AlenaBrolxFlami: oh, Mikaela - a few days ago [23:11:29] AlenaBrolxFlami: or you could make it a poll? [23:11:48] PrettyKitty51015: A poll would work, but comments would really do better, I think. [23:11:56] angelcerv21: yes [23:11:58] PrettyKitty51015: More outcry could be had. [23:12:08] PrettyKitty51015: More outrage. [23:12:11] AlenaBrolxFlami: would BOTH be overkill? [23:12:20] angelcerv21: all we have to state - and I'll put this in the post - is that we liked her posts, liked the name thing, and i always read when she posts trivia [23:12:32] angelcerv21: well, people could do more than just one post [23:12:36] angelcerv21: but a poll is overkill [23:12:40] AlenaBrolxFlami: okay - do it however you think best [23:12:43] angelcerv21: i could post, guaaaache could post [23:12:51] angelcerv21: pretty kitty posts [23:12:59] angelcerv21: the comments galore hopefully [23:13:04] angelcerv21: more than one post packs a punch [23:13:25] *** guaaaache has left the chat. [23:13:32] PrettyKitty51015: aww [23:13:42] angelcerv21: her internet isn't doing too well [23:13:44] AlenaBrolxFlami: hey, I really appreciate that [23:13:47] AlenaBrolxFlami: doesn't seem like it [23:13:48] angelcerv21: but she got the message [23:13:55] angelcerv21: that's okay [23:14:05] PrettyKitty51015: I think we'll do fine. [23:14:22] angelcerv21: i'm going to make mine in the morning when i've drafted it in my head [23:14:33] angelcerv21: you guys come up with something good [23:14:33] PrettyKitty51015: I'll post as soon as I get up. [23:14:40] angelcerv21: me too [23:14:49] angelcerv21: tomorrow's sunday...yeah nothing going on [23:15:05] angelcerv21: worst that could happen...we resort to bp2 [23:15:08] PrettyKitty51015: I think the comments will just stack [23:15:15] angelcerv21: yep [23:15:20] PrettyKitty51015: Exactly. at least we know a few of us will move if necessary. [23:15:25] angelcerv21: sometimes the strangest posts get a lot of comments [23:15:45] angelcerv21: k i'm gonna hit the hay as julie would say [23:15:51] angelcerv21: lovely chatting with you all! [23:16:00] PrettyKitty51015: Same to you! Sleep well! [23:16:04] angelcerv21: bye [23:16:13] *** angelcerv21 has left the chat. [23:16:23] PrettyKitty51015: and then there were two. [23:17:44] PrettyKitty51015: Three!!! [23:17:45] PrettyKitty51015: lol [23:17:54] PrettyKitty51015: Desperate to not find my name on it. lol [23:18:00] guaaaache: OHHHH yes I remember now, the names [23:18:25] PrettyKitty51015: I think I was reading the E one and found a name that was one of my friend's names. I laughed so hard. [23:18:33] AlenaBrolxFlami: you didn't miss too much - Angel saying she'd draft her post, BP2 moving action plans, Angel leaving [23:19:06] AlenaBrolxFlami: and Lauren? those were boys' names only! [23:19:38] PrettyKitty51015: wait wut? [23:19:49] PrettyKitty51015: Were you only doing boys names? [23:19:58] AlenaBrolxFlami: and no... your name is not on the L girl name list... [23:20:04] PrettyKitty51015: Sweet! [23:20:13] AlenaBrolxFlami: the boys' names came before the girls' names in the book [23:20:29] guaaaache: oh, angel left [23:20:35] PrettyKitty51015: ohh okay. Oh well the friend I was talking about was a guy... Eugene. [23:20:47] PrettyKitty51015: we called him Euey [23:20:48] PrettyKitty51015: which was odd. [23:21:10] AlenaBrolxFlami: that is odd [23:21:43] guaaaache: Mariah called me a moron in one of my posts [23:21:48] guaaaache: does she do that to everyone? [23:21:56] AlenaBrolxFlami: I wouldn't be surprised [23:22:07] PrettyKitty51015: Which one is Mariah? I haven't been here long enough to really know her... [23:22:15] guaaaache: her name is 'mariah' [23:22:23] guaaaache: and she almost never comments, so I'm not surprised [23:22:52] PrettyKitty51015: i'm still trying to learn who everyone is >.< [23:23:21] PrettyKitty51015: it's like walking into this room where there's X amount of people, and they're all talking to eachother and to me, and I have to keep their names and faces straight. [23:23:29] PrettyKitty51015: I swear I should take notes. [23:24:27] guaaaache: meh, you'll learn :P [23:24:47] PrettyKitty51015: eventually, yeah. Being that BP is the only thing I read on LJ anymore. [23:25:00] PrettyKitty51015: My actual friends all stopped using it, which is sad in itself. [23:25:20] AlenaBrolxFlami: ah [23:26:49] guaaaache: i prefer to talk to strangers [23:27:07] guaaaache: I'm more comfortable giving revealing information to strangers [23:27:16] guaaaache: though there are some people on bp who make me a bit uncomfortable [23:27:20] AlenaBrolxFlami: like? [23:27:36] PrettyKitty51015: *please don't say me* [23:27:41] PrettyKitty51015: I would feel horrible. [23:27:51] PrettyKitty51015: lol [23:28:24] PrettyKitty51015: Strangers tend to be easier to open up to. Less of a chance of something bad happening with them... unless you're going to be (insert bad thing) by them. [23:29:23] guaaaache: I'm not sure I should say who [23:29:25] guaaaache: I'd rather they didn't know [23:29:42] guaaaache: it's no one here [23:29:57] guaaaache: or who was here, at least for the most part [23:30:37] PrettyKitty51015: Just curious, why do they / he / she make you feel uncomfortable? [23:31:01] AlenaBrolxFlami: haha, okay [23:31:12] guaaaache: mostly just the things they say and the way they say them [23:31:24] guaaaache: or particular attitudes which I might think are disturbing [23:31:33] PrettyKitty51015: hmm [23:31:40] PrettyKitty51015: interesting. [23:32:17] guaaaache: yep, there's one in particular who I think just plays devil's advocate for the hell of it, whether it makes sense or not [23:33:52] AlenaBrolxFlami: I see [23:34:47] guaaaache: if you try to explain your POV to them, they just said "that's nice" or something dismissive like that [23:35:13] PrettyKitty51015: I hate when people do that. Period. [23:35:32] PrettyKitty51015: But it's beyond my comprehension to actually not try to see another POV of something. [23:35:59] PrettyKitty51015: It's this weird innate thing that I need to do. Understand how people think / what they think. [23:36:07] PrettyKitty51015: .... that didn't sound creepy at all. [23:36:11] PrettyKitty51015: Great. Now I'm a creeper. [23:36:12] PrettyKitty51015: *dies* [23:36:56] guaaaache: No, it's a good thing. [23:37:14] AlenaBrolxFlami: I agree [23:37:17] guaaaache: better than saying people are stupid or conceited because they're not like you [23:37:41] PrettyKitty51015: I've always been the type of person where even if I don't agree with your views on something, I understand your reasoning behind it. [23:37:44] AlenaBrolxFlami: true [23:38:05] PrettyKitty51015: I'm a true "Let's agree to disagree" person. [23:38:31] guaaaache: which I've ended up dealing with a couple of times on bp by the same few people [23:38:32] guaaaache: me too, pretty. at least I try to be [23:38:43] AlenaBrolxFlami: me too [23:39:03] guaaaache: and if something offends me, I try to explain politely why [23:39:19] guaaaache: but people still seem to find that offensive in itself [23:39:29] guaaaache: like I'm trying to be controlling or something [23:39:31] PrettyKitty51015: that always kills me. [23:40:01] PrettyKitty51015: If I offend someone, I simply apologize for it. [23:40:22] guaaaache: for me it depends. if I don't get why it's offensive, I will at least ask why [23:40:32] PrettyKitty51015: Like really, is it so hard to keep the peace? I'm so anti-confrontation... [23:40:47] PrettyKitty51015: Well yeah, if it doesn't make sense to me, I'll ask. [23:40:51] guaaaache: even polite confrontations are hard for me, but sometimes it has to be done [23:40:58] PrettyKitty51015: if I can see how it may be offensive.... that's another story. [23:41:27] PrettyKitty51015: I was brought up to hush hush everything quickly [23:41:46] PrettyKitty51015: When actually arguing, my emotions get the best of me. [23:41:54] PrettyKitty51015: Internet arguing just makes me laugh. [23:41:58] guaaaache: yeah, I so don't succeed in that mindset [23:42:28] AlenaBrolxFlami: yup [23:42:45] guaaaache: I like the intellectual kind of arguing [23:42:45] guaaaache: lots of people can't seem to do it though, because they think they're being attacked [23:43:12] PrettyKitty51015: well, that kind of arguing keeps the mind sharp. [23:43:40] PrettyKitty51015: Quickly finding the information within your own mind on a nearly constant basis can be difficult. [23:44:04] PrettyKitty51015: I think those who think they're being attacked in an intellectual argument may need to excuse themselves from the intellecatual world. [23:44:05] guaaaache: yeah [23:44:05] guaaaache: hey... I have to get going now [23:44:05] guaaaache: I have to take some stuff to my friend's house [23:44:05] guaaaache: that is very true [23:44:06] *** guaaaache has left the chat. [23:44:12] PrettyKitty51015: WHOA [23:44:21] PrettyKitty51015: I got like... [23:44:26] PrettyKitty51015: all of those messages at once. [23:44:37] AlenaBrolxFlami: wow [23:44:51] PrettyKitty51015: And then there were two. [23:44:53] PrettyKitty51015: again. [23:45:14] AlenaBrolxFlami: what time is it where you are? [23:45:23] PrettyKitty51015: 2:40 [23:45:28] PrettyKitty51015: well 245 [23:45:31] AlenaBrolxFlami: it's 11:45 PM [23:45:35] PrettyKitty51015: by my computer's standards. [23:45:40] PrettyKitty51015: AM.... [23:45:52] AlenaBrolxFlami: got it [23:46:18] AlenaBrolxFlami: so... Mikaela left, and the chatroom is STILL showing "Users: 3" for me [23:46:37] PrettyKitty51015: Weird... [23:46:40] AlenaBrolxFlami: yup [23:47:11] AlenaBrolxFlami: I need to get going and prepare for bed... good luck with that whole posting thing [23:47:27] PrettyKitty51015: G'night! [23:47:29] PrettyKitty51015: sleep well! [23:47:38] AlenaBrolxFlami: good night - you too!