INCEPTION, DOOM, SALT, and English in Taiwan
This is a conversation that Corey and I just had:
12:13:30 AM Flami: hey, guess what I'm watching right now...
12:27:30 AM Corey: Inception
12:28:19 AM Flami: no, I said RIGHT NOW... there is no possible way that I'm in the theatre and on MSN :P
12:30:36 AM Corey: I could be
12:31:11 AM Flami: true, considering the time difference :P "watching" DOOM: THE MOVIE
12:32:38 AM Corey: but that movie sucks
12:33:06 AM Corey: there's one pretty cool scene where it's all first person like the game, but the rest isn't so hot :P
12:33:26 AM Corey: well, I saw Inception! :P on Sunday
12:33:49 AM Flami: WHY IS EVERYONE SEEING IT WITHOUT ME?!
12:35:14 AM Corey: I saw it with lots of annoying people talking behind us, but at least they're speaking Chinese, so I can filter it out :P
Flami: haha
12:36:36 AM Corey: I wanted to see Salt, since the commercials looked kinda cool, but Jane said Leonardo DiCaprio chooses good movies most of the time, so we should see Inception. then I noticed it was Christopher Nolan (we just watched Memento the night before.. she didn't like it because it's too weird), and decided that Inception was definitely the better choice.
12:39:40 AM Corey: it's pretty good.. probably not as amazing as everyone is apparently saying it is.. some of the characters barely even had their names mentioned, so I didn't know who anyone was, and they kind of change the rules around as it goes (they have explanations for it, but it's just confusing to keep track of)
12:40:12 AM Corey: but yes, you can go see it :P it's pretty cool, and it's not a remake, or even based on a book. just an original movie, for once
12:41:47 AM Flami: I hear it takes place simultaneously in many different time periods or something.
12:43:09 AM Corey: no, not time periods... they can go into people's dreams, very similar to The Matrix where they go into the computer world. the different time periods are dreams within dreams, not time periods. time passes differently in each level of dreaming within dreams
12:45:23 AM Corey: the rules for how they do the dreams within dreams change around, and the ways they use to get out of them change around... so the first half of the movie, it works one way... then they have another way for the rest... they explain it, but there's a lot going on by then
12:45:57 AM Flami: sounds confusing
12:49:12 AM Corey: not too bad... but a bit, yeah
12:52:13 AM Corey: still, one of the best new movies I've seen in a long time. Avatar was good, but that's kind of more like a theme park ride than a good movie... a lot of fun, but the story's nothing too special. I want to go see that again, since Jane never saw it, and it's awesome 3D. it's getting re-released at the end of the month.. not sure if we'll get that out here...
12:52:29 AM Corey: we didn't get Predators even though they advertised it on TV :(
12:52:55 AM Flami: never heard of PREDATORS
12:55:58 AM Corey: Predator 3, basically, which is supposed to ignore the godawful Alien vs. Predator movies and just go back to being cool like the first one with Arnold was... probably less like Predator 2, even though that movie was awesome, too
12:56:21 AM Corey: it's probably not even that good, but I want to see it anyway :P I guess I'll have to wait for the Russian R5
12:57:32 AM Flami: oh, ALIEN VS. PREDATOR...
1:02:40 AM Corey: they both suck. the first one is PG-13, and on Earth instead of space like all the cool AVP comics and games... the second one at least goes back to being rated R and violent, but it's also on Earth, plus some dumbass working on the movie decided to manually make everything super dark... the entire movie... so you can't see anything.
1:02:54 AM Corey: there were trailers for the movie where everything was perfectly clear and looked nice. then the movie came out, and everything was almost black
1:03:40 AM Corey: but the old Predator movies are both cool, and Predators is supposed to be a continuation of those
1:04:54 AM Flami: WOOHOO! LET'S MAKE EVERYTHING R-RATED AND VIOLENT!
1:09:48 AM Corey: a movie called Predator should be..........
1:10:24 AM Corey: AVP was still violent, they just cut away from everything early... you can't see anything, and it sucks. it's an action movie with all the action scenes neutered
1:10:46 AM Corey: making Die Hard 4 PG-13 was pretty retarded, too
1:13:08 AM Flami: that is kinda self-defeating
1:15:05 AM Corey: yeah, so it's stupid. Hollywood is afraid of Rated-R movies these days... there's even horror movies that come out PG-13...
1:15:41 AM Flami: that's nuts
1:16:13 AM Corey: Inception is only PG-13.. lots of Nolan's other movies (except Batman) are R, with lots of swearing and all that good stuff. Inception didn't need to be R, but I bet it's only PG-13 because some studio said he had to make it that way so it's more marketable or something stupid like that
1:18:23 AM Flami: nice. time for bed now - I've had enough shooting as "background music" :P
1:29:44 AM Corey: okay.. goodnight then
1:30:45 AM Flami: To leave you with something funny: one of my friends saw something called "Fuck the duck till exploded" on a menu :P
1:31:08 AM Corey: oh yeah? where can I go to order that?
1:31:52 AM Flami: I'm guessing the UK, by the Euro sign
1:32:00 AM Corey: sometimes restaurants here will give me an English version of their menu, and it's all horrible translations like that.. usually not funny, just nonsensical... it's pretty much useless. I just ask someone else to translate the Chinese menu that makes sense
1:33:15 AM Corey: well, Chinese people seem to generally suck at English... they spend an awful lot of time in school and in extra classes learning it, but they just can't get it..... I explain things every class to the same people, and they don't get it. they REFUSE to pronounce the "s" at the end of anything plural.. they just ignore me when I correct that..
1:33:41 AM Corey: and they refuse to say contractions. they break them up into separate words.. I keep telling them not to change stuff
1:33:44 AM Corey: just read what's there
1:34:23 AM Corey: they'll read the contraction while I'm standing there telling them to, then the very next time a contraction comes up, they do it again... it seems pretty useless to try to fix that
1:34:46 AM Corey: I keep telling them it sounds really unnatural, and nobody does that... but they will not change
1:35:21 AM Flami: intractable, I call it
1:37:32 AM Corey: they also waste their time completely because they're too afraid to make mistakes, so they just don't speak unless almost held up at gunpoint.... Jane says people here are told their whole lives never to make mistakes, so they're so afraid of not being perfect that they just never learn anything, I guess.. people here work and study for almost literally the whole day... even small kids.
1:37:49 AM Corey: you'd think they'd figure out that their system completely sucks and wastes their entire lives, but I guess not...
1:38:00 AM Corey: they spend all that time studying, and don't even learn anything
1:38:09 AM Corey: they memorize lots of shit, but they seem to understand very little
1:42:16 AM Flami: sucks... bedtime for real now - good night.
12:13:30 AM Flami: hey, guess what I'm watching right now...
12:27:30 AM Corey: Inception
12:28:19 AM Flami: no, I said RIGHT NOW... there is no possible way that I'm in the theatre and on MSN :P
12:30:36 AM Corey: I could be
12:31:11 AM Flami: true, considering the time difference :P "watching" DOOM: THE MOVIE
12:32:38 AM Corey: but that movie sucks
12:33:06 AM Corey: there's one pretty cool scene where it's all first person like the game, but the rest isn't so hot :P
12:33:26 AM Corey: well, I saw Inception! :P on Sunday
12:33:49 AM Flami: WHY IS EVERYONE SEEING IT WITHOUT ME?!
12:35:14 AM Corey: I saw it with lots of annoying people talking behind us, but at least they're speaking Chinese, so I can filter it out :P
Flami: haha
12:36:36 AM Corey: I wanted to see Salt, since the commercials looked kinda cool, but Jane said Leonardo DiCaprio chooses good movies most of the time, so we should see Inception. then I noticed it was Christopher Nolan (we just watched Memento the night before.. she didn't like it because it's too weird), and decided that Inception was definitely the better choice.
12:39:40 AM Corey: it's pretty good.. probably not as amazing as everyone is apparently saying it is.. some of the characters barely even had their names mentioned, so I didn't know who anyone was, and they kind of change the rules around as it goes (they have explanations for it, but it's just confusing to keep track of)
12:40:12 AM Corey: but yes, you can go see it :P it's pretty cool, and it's not a remake, or even based on a book. just an original movie, for once
12:41:47 AM Flami: I hear it takes place simultaneously in many different time periods or something.
12:43:09 AM Corey: no, not time periods... they can go into people's dreams, very similar to The Matrix where they go into the computer world. the different time periods are dreams within dreams, not time periods. time passes differently in each level of dreaming within dreams
12:45:23 AM Corey: the rules for how they do the dreams within dreams change around, and the ways they use to get out of them change around... so the first half of the movie, it works one way... then they have another way for the rest... they explain it, but there's a lot going on by then
12:45:57 AM Flami: sounds confusing
12:49:12 AM Corey: not too bad... but a bit, yeah
12:52:13 AM Corey: still, one of the best new movies I've seen in a long time. Avatar was good, but that's kind of more like a theme park ride than a good movie... a lot of fun, but the story's nothing too special. I want to go see that again, since Jane never saw it, and it's awesome 3D. it's getting re-released at the end of the month.. not sure if we'll get that out here...
12:52:29 AM Corey: we didn't get Predators even though they advertised it on TV :(
12:52:55 AM Flami: never heard of PREDATORS
12:55:58 AM Corey: Predator 3, basically, which is supposed to ignore the godawful Alien vs. Predator movies and just go back to being cool like the first one with Arnold was... probably less like Predator 2, even though that movie was awesome, too
12:56:21 AM Corey: it's probably not even that good, but I want to see it anyway :P I guess I'll have to wait for the Russian R5
12:57:32 AM Flami: oh, ALIEN VS. PREDATOR...
1:02:40 AM Corey: they both suck. the first one is PG-13, and on Earth instead of space like all the cool AVP comics and games... the second one at least goes back to being rated R and violent, but it's also on Earth, plus some dumbass working on the movie decided to manually make everything super dark... the entire movie... so you can't see anything.
1:02:54 AM Corey: there were trailers for the movie where everything was perfectly clear and looked nice. then the movie came out, and everything was almost black
1:03:40 AM Corey: but the old Predator movies are both cool, and Predators is supposed to be a continuation of those
1:04:54 AM Flami: WOOHOO! LET'S MAKE EVERYTHING R-RATED AND VIOLENT!
1:09:48 AM Corey: a movie called Predator should be..........
1:10:24 AM Corey: AVP was still violent, they just cut away from everything early... you can't see anything, and it sucks. it's an action movie with all the action scenes neutered
1:10:46 AM Corey: making Die Hard 4 PG-13 was pretty retarded, too
1:13:08 AM Flami: that is kinda self-defeating
1:15:05 AM Corey: yeah, so it's stupid. Hollywood is afraid of Rated-R movies these days... there's even horror movies that come out PG-13...
1:15:41 AM Flami: that's nuts
1:16:13 AM Corey: Inception is only PG-13.. lots of Nolan's other movies (except Batman) are R, with lots of swearing and all that good stuff. Inception didn't need to be R, but I bet it's only PG-13 because some studio said he had to make it that way so it's more marketable or something stupid like that
1:18:23 AM Flami: nice. time for bed now - I've had enough shooting as "background music" :P
1:29:44 AM Corey: okay.. goodnight then
1:30:45 AM Flami: To leave you with something funny: one of my friends saw something called "Fuck the duck till exploded" on a menu :P
1:31:08 AM Corey: oh yeah? where can I go to order that?
1:31:52 AM Flami: I'm guessing the UK, by the Euro sign
1:32:00 AM Corey: sometimes restaurants here will give me an English version of their menu, and it's all horrible translations like that.. usually not funny, just nonsensical... it's pretty much useless. I just ask someone else to translate the Chinese menu that makes sense
1:33:15 AM Corey: well, Chinese people seem to generally suck at English... they spend an awful lot of time in school and in extra classes learning it, but they just can't get it..... I explain things every class to the same people, and they don't get it. they REFUSE to pronounce the "s" at the end of anything plural.. they just ignore me when I correct that..
1:33:41 AM Corey: and they refuse to say contractions. they break them up into separate words.. I keep telling them not to change stuff
1:33:44 AM Corey: just read what's there
1:34:23 AM Corey: they'll read the contraction while I'm standing there telling them to, then the very next time a contraction comes up, they do it again... it seems pretty useless to try to fix that
1:34:46 AM Corey: I keep telling them it sounds really unnatural, and nobody does that... but they will not change
1:35:21 AM Flami: intractable, I call it
1:37:32 AM Corey: they also waste their time completely because they're too afraid to make mistakes, so they just don't speak unless almost held up at gunpoint.... Jane says people here are told their whole lives never to make mistakes, so they're so afraid of not being perfect that they just never learn anything, I guess.. people here work and study for almost literally the whole day... even small kids.
1:37:49 AM Corey: you'd think they'd figure out that their system completely sucks and wastes their entire lives, but I guess not...
1:38:00 AM Corey: they spend all that time studying, and don't even learn anything
1:38:09 AM Corey: they memorize lots of shit, but they seem to understand very little
1:42:16 AM Flami: sucks... bedtime for real now - good night.
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