BORING_PEOPLE Chat 5, Part 2 [08.07.10]

Cast of Characters, in Order of Appearance angelcerv25, AKA Angel (angelcerv25) me, AKA Leslie (glowing_dragon) Flagrant3D3lict0, AKA Chandi (amigone) AmethystBrackish, AKA Kat (brackishkitten) Mikaela, AKA embryogirl julieiskeygrace, AKA Julie (keygrace) NyquilSteve317, AKA Steve (nyquilsteve317) PrettyKitty51015, AKA Lauren (laurentums) [19:24:12] angelcerv21: whatcha guys think about the wikileaks stuff? [19:24:51] AmethystBrackish: WTF is that? [19:25:01] angelcerv21: Wikileaks [19:25:17] Flagrant3D3lict0: I haven't heard of it. [19:25:21] angelcerv21: it's all the stuff the US gov't has been hiding about our failed wars [19:25:28] angelcerv21: and they keep decrying it [19:25:29] AmethystBrackish: I posted my if you really knew me. Kinda boring. I wanted to add more, but my ADD is like "ooohhh shiny" [19:25:44] angelcerv21: and a surprising number os US folks think it's awful what they're doing too [19:25:55] angelcerv21: but i'm like, how? we're exposing their dirty secrets, this is good [19:26:10] angelcerv21: ooh ok i'll read it [19:26:32] angelcerv21: they post all this classified stuff [19:26:33] Flagrant3D3lict0: oh wow. [19:26:36] angelcerv21: whistleblowers send it in [19:27:23] angelcerv21: the video of our military shooting up Reuters reporters, and the van that rushed in to help them, seen it? It's horrifying and it was a military secret until Private Manning sent it on to wikileaks [19:27:43] angelcerv21: now he's arrested and in a Kuwait jail, because he also sent along thousands of afghan war cables and info [19:28:18] angelcerv21: poor guy was betrayed by his friend... a former whistleblower himself, the fucking asshole hypocrite...my heart goes out to the Manning guy [19:28:25] angelcerv21: he'll never see the light of day again [19:28:44] angelcerv21: you gotta check it out [19:29:06] Flagrant3D3lict0: :-( [19:30:24] angelcerv21: i know [19:30:29] AmethystBrackish: anyone know any good movies that are out right now? [19:30:35] Flagrant3D3lict0: I don't. [19:30:42] angelcerv21: supposedly, Inception is good [19:30:58] angelcerv21: but i go for indie movies because what they're putting out lately just sucks major monkey balls [19:31:00] AmethystBrackish: Already trying to find a copy to download [19:31:14] angelcerv21: watch Zombie Strippers [19:31:16] angelcerv21: you'll love it [19:31:18] AmethystBrackish: oh no [19:31:32] AmethystBrackish: I saw a preview for it... [19:31:38] AmethystBrackish: *shakes head* [19:31:47] angelcerv21: oh it's fun [19:32:16] angelcerv21: i did a feminist paper on it - Zombie Feminism. My teacher loved it so much, she wants me to expand to a whole new concept and submit it to the spring research symposium [19:32:27] angelcerv21: i showed the movie to my class [19:32:31] AmethystBrackish: lol [19:32:52] AmethystBrackish: Maybe I will because I love me a zombie movie [19:33:00] angelcerv21: watch XXY - a foreign film with subtitles, a little-known gem. It's about a hermaphrodite.... maybe that's why I love it so much [19:33:07] angelcerv21: i love zombies too [19:33:26] angelcerv21: 28 days and weeks later? AWESOME [19:33:36] angelcerv21: loved that take on zombies [19:33:46] AmethystBrackish: I seriously watched one of the crappiest I've ever seen just to watch them say brains everytime they bit into someone's scalp [19:34:02] angelcerv21: which one? [19:34:19] AmethystBrackish: Sadly I don't remember the title [19:34:46] AmethystBrackish: I wish I did, I'd download it. They made more of them too [19:35:03] AmethystBrackish: they were on the SyFy channel I believe [19:35:20] angelcerv21: there are some movies that are so bad they're good [19:35:23] angelcerv21: like troll 2 [19:36:06] *** julieiskeygrace has joined the chat. [19:36:18] angelcerv21: we got another one [19:36:25] julieiskeygrace: oo people are here! hooray! [19:36:31] angelcerv21: yep not tons but a few of us [19:36:47] julieiskeygrace: better than zero :-) [19:36:54] angelcerv21: nyquilsteve may come later he said, he's on his phone [19:36:57] AmethystBrackish: Have you ever watched a movie and thought this movie is awesome, then a couple years later you watch it again and think that it's the worst acting you've ever seen [19:36:58] angelcerv21: hahahaha [19:37:05] angelcerv21: hmm.... [19:37:13] julieiskeygrace: man this is such a novelty :-P [19:37:22] julieiskeygrace: i have never ever used aim to talk to anyone before [19:37:32] angelcerv21: it's new for me too [19:37:43] angelcerv21: i got it for the express reason of talking to BP friends [19:37:56] Flagrant3D3lict0: :| [19:37:56] angelcerv21: normally i'm a yahoo chatter [19:38:03] julieiskeygrace: sorry if i'm interrupting some deep conversation with my giddiness :-P yeah same, i'm normally msn [19:38:23] Flagrant3D3lict0: I'm suffering from best-friend-gets-a-girlfriend-and-ditches-me-while-completely-ignoring-my-feelings syndrome. [19:38:26] angelcerv21: we were discussing movies...can't think of a movie i loved then didn't like later... [19:38:41] angelcerv21: is your best friend male or female or something else? [19:38:47] Flagrant3D3lict0: male [19:38:49] angelcerv21: aw [19:38:52] Flagrant3D3lict0: He thinks with his cock. [19:38:58] Flagrant3D3lict0: he's ignored his kid [19:39:05] angelcerv21: i'm not fully male, but i do that sometimes too [19:39:11] angelcerv21: he has a kid? [19:39:12] angelcerv21: damn [19:39:23] Flagrant3D3lict0: I met his ex-girlfriend in high school - they were together for 7 years, and I got to know him. [19:39:32] Flagrant3D3lict0: He warned me he is Shiva - he destroys what he cares about. [19:39:45] angelcerv21: shiva doesn't do that [19:40:03] angelcerv21: shiva has a glorified fierceness, but is not destructive toward love [19:40:36] julieiskeygrace: uft, not a good syndrome.. i've had that before.. he sounds not cool [19:40:56] angelcerv21: i'm furious with my now "ex girlfriend"... ew, what an ugly word... but i miss her, too [19:41:27] julieiskeygrace: no wonder, its still not been that long, has it? [19:41:28] Flagrant3D3lict0: He's awesome. I love him dearly. [19:41:33] angelcerv21: she hasn't been home in days... she came home today because she was here when i got home, and then she promptly left [19:41:54] angelcerv21: she told me july 21 she didn't want me anymore [19:43:34] julieiskeygrace: i really really want to say something comforting, but i'm aware how insincere EVERYTHING sounds over IM, but I really feel for you, my bf dumped me... not quite so brutally, but in the same "don't love you any more fashion" ... it took me so goddamn long to get over, so I do kind of understand how it feels [19:43:37] julieiskeygrace: its awful [19:43:50] angelcerv21: hang on [19:44:17] angelcerv21: my increasingly annoying neighbor [19:44:38] angelcerv21: calls me "angie" and always needs my phone, vacuum, something or other [19:44:49] julieiskeygrace: hahaha, nice.. [19:44:53] angelcerv21: my vacuum sucks at sucking, so i said no [19:45:21] julieiskeygrace: lol good (y) is it not pretty late to be hoovering anyway, or is it still early there? [19:45:37] angelcerv21: it's 7:45 PM right now [19:45:40] angelcerv21: not too late [19:45:48] angelcerv21: i don't have to take my meds till 9 [19:45:58] angelcerv21: and even then, they take awhile to put me to sleep [19:46:15] julieiskeygrace: ahhh, still late enough... you managing to get some sleep nowadays? [19:46:40] angelcerv21: yeah, the meds help with that, but i'm groggy in the morning unless i have coffee, which is a crucial morning thing [19:46:56] angelcerv21: i didn't sleep much last night, i didn't take my meds [19:47:18] *** AmethystBrackish has left the chat. [19:47:29] julieiskeygrace: ah yeah, I used to be like that with energy drinks... just a bad habit, though... managed to get out of it. was last night the night out I think i read about? [19:47:30] angelcerv21: aw, another one down [19:47:34] julieiskeygrace: awww, guttin [19:47:39] angelcerv21: yeah [19:47:45] julieiskeygrace: how was it? [19:47:46] angelcerv21: i was drinking [19:47:51] julieiskeygrace: bad idea? [19:47:51] angelcerv21: it was a fun show [19:47:58] angelcerv21: the paddles and pasties show [19:48:07] angelcerv21: i had been going over a year, with my girlfriend [19:48:29] angelcerv21: i wasn't going to go but this friend i have, colin, knew she wasn't going to be there, so he talked me in to coming [19:48:33] angelcerv21: he has a big crush on me [19:48:58] angelcerv21: i was only going to stay an hour or so, and just take my drugs later [19:49:16] angelcerv21: but i ended up staying for the whole show, and getting drunk in the process - vodka tonic, hurricane, and a bloody mary [19:49:26] julieiskeygrace: awww, is he nice? (even though i'm assuming he's not an option atm), yeah that's always how it starts out... "i'll only stay for a wee bit" :-D [19:49:35] angelcerv21: hahahahaha, yep [19:49:37] angelcerv21: he's really nice [19:50:02] angelcerv21: he has global minor developmental disabilities, but you wouldn't know unless he told you (or if you live with him, as he says) [19:50:09] angelcerv21: so he gets SSI [19:50:14] julieiskeygrace: what's that? [19:50:16] angelcerv21: that's social security income [19:50:21] julieiskeygrace: ahhh right, [19:50:24] angelcerv21: an american thing for people with disabilities [19:50:33] angelcerv21: i found out i could qualify because of my bipolar [19:50:39] angelcerv21: my bipolar is pretty acute [19:50:52] julieiskeygrace: ahh yeah, we just have disability benefit. not too cryptic :-P yeah? do you need to apply for it? [19:51:00] angelcerv21: i wouldn't be surviving too well without my drugs and i don't even have my mood stabilizers which is aggravating [19:51:12] angelcerv21: yeah it's a long process, and they deny you by default [19:51:16] angelcerv21: so you have to appeal [19:51:25] angelcerv21: except colin got approved the first time [19:51:36] *** guaaaache has joined the chat. [19:51:40] angelcerv21: my neighbor has it too, for depression/anxiety [19:51:41] guaaaache: hmm [19:51:51] julieiskeygrace: sounds like here... they're so stingy... they make you do really degrading things to prove you reeeeally need it [19:51:54] angelcerv21: but he also has a felony background, what else can you do? [19:51:55] guaaaache: oh, my internet is working again [19:52:01] angelcerv21: same here [19:52:07] angelcerv21: cool, wondering where you went [19:52:13] guaaaache: what degrading things? [19:52:21] julieiskeygrace: yeah, my mum gets it, and she went for her yearly checkup thing, and they made her strip off and show them her scars... [19:52:21] angelcerv21: for SSI [19:52:23] julieiskeygrace: :S [19:52:29] angelcerv21: whoa [19:52:37] julieiskeygrace: yeah, she was really goddamned upset [19:52:38] guaaaache: what the fuck. [19:52:48] guaaaache: that's so fucking insensitive [19:53:00] julieiskeygrace: yeah, cause she had a C-section when my bro was born, and there were massive complications... they were all, prove it. [19:53:08] angelcerv21: that would trigger my bipolar for sure, anything invasive... that's why i haven't tried to go for it [19:53:25] angelcerv21: i already know how callous they are [19:53:31] julieiskeygrace: yeah from what i hear its really horrible, so if you do go for it, expect the worst :-\ [19:53:35] angelcerv21: i'm extremely private [19:53:41] julieiskeygrace: yeah same, i could never do that [19:53:53] angelcerv21: i question my ability to deal, i guess [19:54:08] angelcerv21: things that don't bother most people, little things... really bother me [19:54:11] julieiskeygrace: i'm lucky though cause i'm an incredibly healthy indivdual, worst i have is asthma :-) [19:54:14] angelcerv21: or upset me some way [19:54:14] julieiskeygrace: yeah? [19:54:24] guaaaache: like what, angel? [19:54:32] angelcerv21: well, we all deal with inconveniences [19:54:37] angelcerv21: when i have to deal with them, i lose it [19:54:48] angelcerv21: i break things, my temper shoots off, i cry, i hide for days [19:55:08] angelcerv21: i will self-medicate or hurt myself [19:55:17] angelcerv21: i will attack others [19:55:32] angelcerv21: i couldn't find my wallet one day [19:55:36] angelcerv21: this was back when i had a job [19:55:52] angelcerv21: i broke my dresser, broke my girlfriend's clock, and couldn't go to work that day [19:56:39] julieiskeygrace: wow,, is it just like your coping mechanisms don't work? [19:56:44] angelcerv21: exactly [19:56:49] angelcerv21: they are poor [19:57:09] angelcerv21: so i feel compelled to keep as much order and control in my life as possible [19:57:17] angelcerv21: then i'm not so ... prone to anger and aggrvation [19:57:22] angelcerv21: but shit is inevitable [19:57:25] julieiskeygrace: yeah understandably, that must be awful [19:57:27] guaaaache: I don't cope well with things either, but I usually just shut down and refuse to do something [19:57:46] guaaaache: I can't handle stress at all, and I don't know how I can learn to [19:58:13] julieiskeygrace: yeah? stress is one of those awful things i find that you just never get used to :-\ [19:58:18] angelcerv21: stress, when it is about school, actually helps push me a bit [19:58:25] julieiskeygrace: yeah same for uni [19:58:30] angelcerv21: if it's at work, i alienate [19:58:30] guaaaache: it seems to motivate a lot of people [19:58:38] julieiskeygrace: it'll give me a kick up the arse [19:58:48] guaaaache: but I seem to get stressed way more easily than other people [19:58:57] angelcerv21: i think my temper and lack of control might calm down if i could just get my damn lithium or depakote [19:59:11] guaaaache: even if I have to answer a question in class, I start feeling anxious... and if I'm not sure, I get it wrong... I stop responding until the teacher moves on [19:59:11] Flagrant3D3lict0: I hated meds :-( [19:59:17] angelcerv21: but they're saying no psychiatrist til october! I forsee myself going to the emergency room before that [19:59:24] angelcerv21: i don't like them either [19:59:29] angelcerv21: but i'm worse off without them [19:59:31] Flagrant3D3lict0: I gained 90 lbs on Risperdal. [19:59:38] Flagrant3D3lict0: Now I'm fat and crazy instead of crazy [20:00:01] angelcerv21: oh my goodness, really? Did it increase your appetite? [20:00:09] Flagrant3D3lict0: It was horrible. It really did. [20:00:16] angelcerv21: wow [20:00:27] angelcerv21: my Seroquel does that, but I need to gain weight bad [20:00:38] Flagrant3D3lict0: Seroquel left me somnolent through the day [20:00:39] Flagrant3D3lict0: even at 25 mg [20:00:40] julieiskeygrace: i remember my dad always told me when i was stressed to make a list of all the things that were bothering me, then score off the ones i had no control over, then score off the ones i can't fix right now, then what i was left with was like one or two things, so it calmed me down a lot.. i do that a lot. [20:00:42] julieiskeygrace: brb toilet [20:01:08] Flagrant3D3lict0: Bipolar isn't my issue though, it's something else [20:01:12] angelcerv21: I weigh as much as my 16 year old self, almost 25 though [20:01:14] angelcerv21: what is it? [20:01:25] Flagrant3D3lict0: PTSD. [20:01:32] angelcerv21: the things i can't control bother me more and more, even when i tell myself i have no control...that scares me more [20:01:39] Flagrant3D3lict0: the atypical antipsychotics helped my brain stop doing the non-stop racing thing [20:01:40] angelcerv21: I've been diagnosed with that too [20:01:53] angelcerv21: right, that's why they give them to me too [20:02:08] angelcerv21: the atypical line of them are used for lots of things besides actual psychoticism [20:02:20] Flagrant3D3lict0: *nods* [20:02:48] angelcerv21: i've been diagnosed with that, but psychoticism is usually accompanied with something else, is caused, at least in me, by other aggravating factors [20:03:00] angelcerv21: that's when they put me in restraints recently at the hospital [20:03:09] Flagrant3D3lict0: I'm a psych major. It was hard to read the parts in my book about PTSD. [20:03:18] guaaaache: me too! [20:03:23] Flagrant3D3lict0: whee!! [20:03:24] guaaaache: I mean the psych major part [20:03:27] angelcerv21: I'm a psych major too, and it's been most therapeutic sometimes [20:03:34] Flagrant3D3lict0: It's the wounded healer thing. [20:03:37] angelcerv21: hahahaha [20:03:39] guaaaache: it sometimes depresses me [20:03:43] Flagrant3D3lict0: It's a path of self-discovery. [20:03:55] angelcerv21: the psych I saw after the bad hospital incident said lots of mentally ill folks get degrees in it [20:04:05] guaaaache: I've heard that too [20:04:10] angelcerv21: he showed me a book about bipolar and psychosis disorderd written by a lady with bipolar [20:04:13] guaaaache: we're more likely to be interested in it, I suppose? [20:04:21] Flagrant3D3lict0: well, we certainly have a vested interest. [20:04:27] angelcerv21: intensely [20:04:31] angelcerv21: this shit affects us directly [20:04:35] Flagrant3D3lict0: but now that I'm "better" or "functional," I want to help others too. [20:04:47] guaaaache: more likely to be able to come up with new solutions and treatment, I'd say [20:04:50] angelcerv21: the stigma terrifies me... I think by majoring in it and getting a PhD, I can hide it better or something [20:04:52] guaaaache: since we can better understand how things would work out [20:05:20] guaaaache: I'm terrified of not being smart enough to finish [20:05:41] angelcerv21: i'm terrified of not being accepted to grad school [20:05:43] guaaaache: and i'm childish so I can't motivate myself well to do things even if I want them badly [20:05:46] Flagrant3D3lict0: When I took a class on counseling, it said that a number of counselors (what I want to persue) are indeed 'wounded healers' [20:05:54] Flagrant3D3lict0: Angel - have you considered athabasca university? [20:06:01] Flagrant3D3lict0: they have an open program for a Master of Counselling [20:06:10] Flagrant3D3lict0: that's where I go - it's all online/distance learning [20:06:21] Flagrant3D3lict0: that way I can work 32 hours/week and still take 4 classes [20:06:26] angelcerv21: they should be... how can a mentally healthy person really relate to the suffering of a mentally ill person? How can someone who's never had anything bad happen to them really relate? [20:06:34] angelcerv21: athabasca, where is that? [20:06:49] angelcerv21: oh online wouldn't work for me [20:06:58] guaaaache: that's why I dislike most of the people in my classes... they're all so normal [20:06:58] Flagrant3D3lict0: Northern alberta, Canada [20:07:14] Flagrant3D3lict0: Angel - you hit the nail on the head. [20:07:15] guaaaache: if they weren't, I think I could tell from various hints... but maybe I'm being arrogant [20:07:18] angelcerv21: i require structure, classes i have to get up and go to, teachers i have to face [20:07:42] Flagrant3D3lict0: ohh. I'm all "this bed feels great" and I'm smart as hell so classrooms make me crazy. [20:07:42] angelcerv21: no it makes sense [20:07:51] julieiskeygrace: I completely agree with that, I don't mean it in a bad way but I have no idea what any of you are talking about, and even if I did know the definitions of the conditions and read up on material, still like shit would I have any idea what you're talking about! [20:08:07] angelcerv21: hahahahaha [20:08:18] angelcerv21: i think that's what my gf doesn't want to admit [20:08:27] angelcerv21: she doesn't want to deal with my mental illness side [20:08:30] angelcerv21: anymore [20:08:36] julieiskeygrace: its no bad thing, if you've not had the experience then you can't know it.. [20:08:41] angelcerv21: i think the time i was in the hospital scared her over the edge [20:08:50] julieiskeygrace: but just admit that... [20:08:51] julieiskeygrace: yeah? [20:08:57] julieiskeygrace: when was that? [20:09:25] angelcerv21: um...june i think or close to july i'd have to examine my livejournal because i recorded it there [20:09:34] Flagrant3D3lict0: brb. I'm thirsty. [20:09:47] guaaaache: is it weird that this chat is wearing me out a little? [20:09:52] julieiskeygrace: really? [20:10:08] angelcerv21: cops found me unresponsive in the streets and they threw me to the ground, i don't remember that well, but then i was taken to the hospital and they had me tied to the bed and i was freaking out, lost all control and they sedated me and i woke up hours later [20:10:14] angelcerv21: no, it's ok [20:10:24] Flagrant3D3lict0: How come it's wearing you out? [20:10:27] angelcerv21: it's normal when you're chatting with more than one person [20:10:34] guaaaache: it's hard for me to follow conversations that involve lots of people [20:10:45] guaaaache: it's much worse in real life, though [20:10:47] angelcerv21: hahahaha [20:10:51] julieiskeygrace: yeah! (its also normal when its ten past four in the morning!) [20:10:52] guaaaache: even talking with two other people is really hard [20:11:01] angelcerv21: you've been up all night? [20:11:11] julieiskeygrace: yeah, i get worn out even listening to a bunch of other folk talk! [20:11:11] guaaaache: it's 13:11 here [20:11:15] angelcerv21: 4 of us in here, so yeah... [20:11:21] julieiskeygrace: yeah finished work at 1 AM and just been sittin up since [20:11:43] julieiskeygrace: had a couple of ciders with my mate but she's off to bed and i'm still wiiiide awake so i'm just online... [20:11:51] julieiskeygrace: playing cafeworld.. cause i'm awesome... [20:12:03] guaaaache: lol oh god [20:12:06] angelcerv21: gf texted me [20:12:17] julieiskeygrace: uuft, what she saying? [20:12:26] angelcerv21: she said you going out tonight? [20:12:37] angelcerv21: and wants to come over and smoke some weed.... i'm like, you live here... [20:12:52] julieiskeygrace: "how about suck my nuts bitch" would be my response [20:12:52] julieiskeygrace: =-OP [20:12:54] julieiskeygrace: * :-P [20:12:59] angelcerv21: i want to believe me i do [20:13:19] angelcerv21: but i am dependent on her at this point, and she has been humane enough to say she doesn't want to leave me hanging [20:13:28] julieiskeygrace: yeah.. have you spoken to her much since she left? [20:13:39] angelcerv21: so she pays the bills and i struggle for independence and when i have it i'm gone and i never want to see her again [20:13:41] angelcerv21: no [20:13:45] angelcerv21: she hasn't been home in days [20:13:54] angelcerv21: and i haven't smoked in 6 days [20:14:00] angelcerv21: i just told her that [20:14:46] angelcerv21: i don't mean to be hostile....but i guess i am coming across as such because she avoids me [20:14:56] julieiskeygrace: you've got every right to be hostile [20:15:01] julieiskeygrace: you've not done anything wrong here [20:15:01] angelcerv21: i got home earlier and she was here and then she left real quick, but she did tell me where she's been staying [20:15:16] angelcerv21: i feel like i have [20:15:26] angelcerv21: i still feel like i did something [20:15:33] angelcerv21: it was so out of the blue [20:15:37] guaaaache: sounds like the hostility is warrented [20:15:52] guaaaache: to me it sounds like she just was in denial about her feelings and then cracked? [20:15:55] angelcerv21: i thought our relationship was good, i thought she could "handle me" so to speak i thought she had my back [20:16:01] guaaaache: seems like she's still unwilling to address them to a certain extent [20:16:02] angelcerv21: yeah [20:16:16] angelcerv21: she's "confused and doubtful" [20:16:17] julieiskeygrace: then you get to be any way you need to be.. if she hasn't explained her actions, then you don't need to justify yours [20:16:20] angelcerv21: says she has been for a long time [20:16:30] angelcerv21: hmm interesting [20:16:51] angelcerv21: she has only sat and talked with me two times since that day [20:16:57] angelcerv21: july 21, seared into my memory [20:17:30] angelcerv21: and both times, told me she didn't want to just cut me off because she knows i have no income and stuff, but that she wants to be single [20:17:48] julieiskeygrace: christ, that must be horrible... [20:18:10] julieiskeygrace: any breakups i've been through, the only thing that's made me ok is the ability to tell the person not to speak to me anymore... [20:18:12] angelcerv21: i told her we're stronger together, but i'll get out of her life if that's what she wants. I need time, of course [20:18:23] angelcerv21: she said she hopes i don't cut her off "like all my other friends" [20:18:31] angelcerv21: I said that looking at her hurts [20:18:37] guaaaache: I guess the fact that she won't leave you hanging is something at least [20:19:07] angelcerv21: yeah that's why I don't want to be a total asshole because of the economic factor....so hard though! [20:19:14] angelcerv21: i'm pissed [20:19:16] guaaaache: (unrelated - I have a huge craving for steak) [20:19:19] angelcerv21: mmmm [20:19:22] angelcerv21: i want meat too [20:19:23] guaaaache: yeah I don't blame you [20:19:29] julieiskeygrace: mmmm i fancy some steak too [20:19:34] angelcerv21: someone mentioned pizza while back and ever since... [20:19:40] julieiskeygrace: i had a baked potato and prawns earlier, was amazing [20:19:42] guaaaache: I have like $20 which has to last until the 6th of August [20:19:48] guaaaache: I'm kind of freaking out and don't want to eat [20:19:52] angelcerv21: hahaha i am in a similar situaiton [20:19:55] guaaaache: 16th [20:20:14] angelcerv21: i have made some money online selling stuff but it takes awhile to transfer from paypal to my bank acct [20:20:20] julieiskeygrace: aww guys my brother's the same.. i've been buying him food left right and centre cause he's so ridiculously skint and just not eating [20:20:22] guaaaache: I just ate this soup I made with left over vegetables and chicken bones for flavour but i'm still hungry :-( [20:20:39] angelcerv21: soup doesn't do it for me [20:20:45] angelcerv21: i'm just as hungry after eating it toop [20:20:46] julieiskeygrace: i'll order you a domino's :-P [20:20:47] angelcerv21: too [20:20:51] angelcerv21: wow really???? [20:20:53] angelcerv21: hahahaha [20:20:53] guaaaache: it was all I could think of to do with the leftover stuff [20:21:09] julieiskeygrace: i could actually *-) i just got paid yesterday :-P [20:21:25] angelcerv21: but aren't you in scotland? [20:21:32] angelcerv21: she's here [20:21:36] guaaaache: I feel tremendously guilty when people buy things for me. I don't know why [20:21:40] angelcerv21: me too [20:21:40] julieiskeygrace: yeah that's one major flaw in this plan :-P [20:21:45] julieiskeygrace: yeah me three [20:21:51] angelcerv21: i do too [20:22:00] angelcerv21: colin paid for me to get in the show [20:22:07] guaaaache: yesterday one of my friends bought me 2 coffees and muffin, a chorizo roll and gave me $20 for travel costs [20:22:13] angelcerv21: i felt the need to pay him back by buying him a drink and the mac and cheese bites [20:22:16] guaaaache: then he told me he bought me a ticket for a concert next weekend [20:22:22] guaaaache: I'm grateful but feel horrible [20:22:59] angelcerv21: aw [20:23:01] guaaaache: oh we also had chocolate milkshakes [20:23:01] angelcerv21: that is nice [20:23:02] guaaaache: gah [20:23:28] guaaaache: I know, he's a really good friend. I hope one day I can make it up to him [20:24:18] guaaaache: I need to try and save money because I'm going to adelaide in october... [20:24:22] julieiskeygrace: aw that's really nice, being on the flipside of that transaction i'd say when i buy shit for folk, so long as they say they'll pay me back when the tables are turned i'm happy :-) he'd never have done it if it wasn't cool [20:24:40] julieiskeygrace: i've heard of adelaide... *-) [20:24:45] guaaaache: it happens often though and I can never pay him back so far [20:24:54] guaaaache: I've never been so looking forward to it [20:24:59] julieiskeygrace: sorry that's meant to be a wee thinking guy emoticon... i'm used to msn ones [20:25:07] guaaaache: my uncle lives there now, that's why I'm going [20:25:13] angelcerv21: i try not to accept things from others when i am not in a position to give back [20:25:25] angelcerv21: my case worker says my pride is holding me back from accepting help [20:25:28] angelcerv21: like the food bank thing [20:25:33] angelcerv21: oh we go back and forth... [20:25:43] julieiskeygrace: food bank? [20:25:46] guaaaache: my pride gets in the way of things too [20:25:57] guaaaache: but it's more like asking for help with uni work when I don't get it [20:26:03] guaaaache: which caused me to fail two of my classes las semester [20:26:09] angelcerv21: yeah it's another american thing [20:26:32] angelcerv21: a place with food so it's different than food stamps because you use those at a grocery store [20:26:35] julieiskeygrace: ahh thought so.. like food benefits? all we have is food vouchers, mainly for baby food [20:26:41] angelcerv21: but i can't be anonymous at the food bank [20:26:54] guaaaache: we don't have anything like that as far as I know... [20:27:03] angelcerv21: yeah, we have WIC - women, infants, and children... those are vouchers for baby and child stuff [20:27:14] angelcerv21: food banks? [20:27:25] guaaaache: I don't think so [20:27:32] angelcerv21: there are a few here [20:27:47] angelcerv21: but you have to enroll, give them personal info, all this stuff... humiliating [20:27:48] julieiskeygrace: yeah.. some people get vouchers in, they're worth £2.80 each, and you're only allowed to buy things like fresh fruit and veg and powdered milk and nappies with them [20:27:58] julieiskeygrace: you get so many people coming into the shop trying to buy booze with them [20:28:00] julieiskeygrace: its ridiculous [20:28:03] angelcerv21: wow [20:28:06] guaaaache: yeah, we so don't have that [20:28:34] guaaaache: the only special considerations I could remember getting when I was unemployed was to get half price travel costs and sometimes they'd buy me clothes if I needed them for job interviews [20:28:36] angelcerv21: you can buy anything with foodstamps except that and people are pushing to make it so you can't buy candy and soda and stuff like that with them too, only legitimate food [20:28:40] julieiskeygrace: because you only get them if you're in need of help and you have a young child, and these folk spend them on freaking tesco value lager [20:28:47] julieiskeygrace: ahh right, that makes sense [20:29:14] angelcerv21: goodwill gives people clothes for interviews and stuff too [20:29:29] angelcerv21: when i worked there, i remember giving homeless people blankets and hats and stuff [20:29:39] angelcerv21: i was a supervisor so i had that power [20:29:53] julieiskeygrace: ah that's pretty cool, we don't really have anything like that.. apart from the SVDP I guess, but that's just a charity thing that helps people out its not like a govt thing [20:30:18] angelcerv21: lots of welfare programs here, from food to housing [20:30:19] guaaaache: I got a voucher, but had to go to a specific store and then get someone to leave their signature on the voucher to say that I had bought appropriate clothes that would suit for interviews and work [20:30:37] angelcerv21: i've even been given info about an organization that helps people with no income get housing [20:31:05] julieiskeygrace: i think that's pretty ridiculous when it comes to people who need it.. but you hear of so many arseholes that use the benefits for rubbish [20:31:10] angelcerv21: but that won't help me much if i still can't buy food, pay my car insurance, pay for my phone and my storage unit with all my books [20:31:18] angelcerv21: americans do too [20:31:26] angelcerv21: gives the ones who really need it a bad name [20:32:02] angelcerv21: guaaaache i did that at goodwill too! lots of vouchers of that fashion [20:32:21] angelcerv21: teri has pink eye [20:32:21] julieiskeygrace: yeah definitely, its like going on the dole (jobseekers allowance) ... my brother had to do it for a while, but he said he went up to the office, and there's these dickheads just lying on the floor in the office.. [20:32:22] angelcerv21: shit [20:32:53] julieiskeygrace: pink eye? yargh.. [20:33:00] angelcerv21: she says it's coming in both eyes [20:33:11] angelcerv21: they sent her home from work today... that's why she was here earlier [20:33:24] julieiskeygrace: i've only ever heard the 'comedy movie' way of getting that [20:33:27] guaaaache: being on the dole was shit [20:33:41] guaaaache: the job agencies don't have enough time or money to help you properly [20:33:48] angelcerv21: same here [20:33:59] guaaaache: and they have to justify every dollar they spend, and have a ridiculously low budget anyway [20:34:04] angelcerv21: manpower, labor ready....they are flooded with people desperate for work [20:34:34] angelcerv21: isn't pink eye really contagious? [20:34:38] julieiskeygrace: yeah.. anyone i know that's on it is on it cause they say they make more money out of it than working [20:34:43] julieiskeygrace: yeah from what i hear, very [20:34:48] angelcerv21: great [20:34:55] angelcerv21: (that was sarcasm) [20:35:01] julieiskeygrace: thought so [20:35:07] julieiskeygrace: or hoped so anyway [20:35:13] angelcerv21: hahaha [20:35:14] guaaaache: it's not like that here, you can't really survive on the dole until you have dependents [20:35:20] angelcerv21: welfare sometimes pays more than work [20:35:36] angelcerv21: if all you can find is minimum wage (which isn't a living wage and was never meant to be) [20:35:43] guaaaache: here you get less in a fortnight than most people would make in a week [20:35:45] angelcerv21: then welfare is a better option [20:35:49] julieiskeygrace: yeah? here you just get it when you're unemployed.. if you fuck up enough they give you a house, if you get yourself knocked up and tell them you don't know who the daddy is they give you a two bedroom flat [20:36:03] angelcerv21: wow [20:36:17] angelcerv21: we seem to condone baby making all the world over [20:36:27] angelcerv21: i hate the fact people keep breeding [20:36:34] angelcerv21: too many people as it is [20:36:41] guaaaache: me too, I'm on VEHMNS side [20:36:48] guaaaache: or whatever they're called [20:36:48] angelcerv21: what's that? [20:37:08] julieiskeygrace: yeah... i was really pissed off cause when i moved to halls a couple years ago and was really struggling and had no money, i found out my cousin had gotten herself knocked up and she got a massive new flat and about £600 a month in benefits [20:37:12] julieiskeygrace: makes me want to cry [20:37:26] guaaaache: http://www.vhemt.org [20:37:33] Flagrant3D3lict0: hi? [20:37:34] angelcerv21: oh i know.... rewarding irresponsible behavior [20:37:39] Flagrant3D3lict0: Still chatting? [20:37:39] angelcerv21: hi hi [20:37:42] angelcerv21: yep [20:37:44] guaaaache: yup [20:37:47] Flagrant3D3lict0: awesome. [20:38:28] Flagrant3D3lict0: I should write in my journal. [20:38:53] angelcerv21: guaaaache i'm saving that site, that's totally the shit i preach hahahaha [20:39:15] Flagrant3D3lict0: woo post secret updated! [20:39:27] angelcerv21: teri loves that.... [20:39:46] julieiskeygrace: aw i've heard of post-secret, someone was ravin on about it on facebook [20:39:57] angelcerv21: she says her eye hurts, she's sitting in the kitchen eating advil and smoking pot [20:40:09] julieiskeygrace: what's advil? [20:40:11] angelcerv21: should i go sit with her? [20:40:16] angelcerv21: pain reliever [20:40:18] julieiskeygrace: ahh [20:40:19] angelcerv21: ibuprofen [20:40:24] julieiskeygrace: ah i know that one [20:40:25] angelcerv21: tylenol [20:40:29] angelcerv21: those kinds of things [20:40:30] julieiskeygrace: yep gotcha [20:40:40] angelcerv21: we prefer advil and stuff because it doesn't have aspirin in it [20:41:01] julieiskeygrace: i've heard of tylenol although its not that common here, ibuprofen's the biggy, advil's not one i've heard of [20:41:11] julieiskeygrace: or at least i've heard the name but never known what it was [20:41:22] angelcerv21: it's the same difference, ibuprofen is the generic advil, so cheaper [20:41:40] angelcerv21: she's all dressed up sexy [20:41:44] angelcerv21: god [20:41:46] julieiskeygrace: ahh cool i guess anadin is our equivalent [20:41:49] angelcerv21: i'll never have sex with her again [20:41:50] julieiskeygrace: on purpose? [20:41:52] angelcerv21: (Cries) [20:42:00] angelcerv21: i think so [20:42:03] angelcerv21: she's going out [20:42:05] julieiskeygrace: ...bitch.. [20:42:33] julieiskeygrace: i'm allowed to hate her, its the generic chick thing to hate someone's ex-girlfriend (sorry, i know that still sounds weird to hear) [20:42:38] angelcerv21: i've posted pics in my journal.... she's gorgeous [20:42:45] angelcerv21: hahahaha it's ok [20:42:53] angelcerv21: i'm hating her / loving her right now [20:43:04] julieiskeygrace: still hating her.. :-) i'll have a look [20:44:29] julieiskeygrace: ah i see her, you're right, she is a really lovely-looking girl.. [20:44:43] julieiskeygrace: but i still maintain my hatred.. [20:44:50] angelcerv21: i don't blame you [20:45:06] *** guaaaache has left the chat. [20:45:18] angelcerv21: aw her internet is screwing up again [20:45:28] julieiskeygrace: aww... where's she from btw? [20:45:33] julieiskeygrace: gauuche i mean [20:46:42] *** guaaaache has joined the chat. [20:46:44] angelcerv21: she's living in pennsylvania [20:46:48] angelcerv21: oh there she is [20:47:02] angelcerv21: philly i think [20:47:05] angelcerv21: right? [20:47:21] julieiskeygrace: ah cool, was just surprised at her knowing the phrase 'on the dole' [20:47:29] guaaaache: my internet died... but i should leave soon [20:47:41] julieiskeygrace: yeah same actually, its ten to five :-\ [20:47:47] julieiskeygrace: i have work at ten [20:47:55] angelcerv21: yeah I think I will sit with her [20:47:56] Flagrant3D3lict0: No leaving :-( [20:48:00] angelcerv21: aw [20:48:07] julieiskeygrace: or eleven.. whatever i can be bothered with... :-P [20:48:08] Flagrant3D3lict0: So sad :-( [20:48:16] angelcerv21: i have to take my drugs [20:48:33] angelcerv21: we've been chatting two hours [20:48:44] Flagrant3D3lict0: *pouts* [20:48:45] Flagrant3D3lict0: :-P [20:48:48] guaaaache: I have to go and print stuff off at the library and it closes at 4 PM [20:48:52] julieiskeygrace: heehee awwwww [20:48:53] angelcerv21: ok [20:48:56] guaaaache: it's almost 2 PM now [20:49:13] julieiskeygrace: wow, your time zone is ridiculously different from mine!! [20:49:15] guaaaache: my left nostril really hurts for some reason [20:49:22] julieiskeygrace: did you pick it? [20:49:26] angelcerv21: hahahahaha [20:49:29] julieiskeygrace: :-D [20:49:30] angelcerv21: drink water [20:49:36] guaaaache: well julie, I am on the complete opposite side of the world, so it doesn't surprise me :-D [20:49:43] angelcerv21: hydration loosens membranes all over the body [20:49:53] julieiskeygrace: yeah, that thought blows my mind [20:50:00] angelcerv21: well, we are mostly water [20:50:04] guaaaache: thanks. drinking water solves everything, it would seem [20:50:08] julieiskeygrace: kaboooooommmm [20:50:11] angelcerv21: we would die within a couple days of having no water [20:50:25] julieiskeygrace: i drank two litres of water today, was out a cycle with my dad [20:50:29] julieiskeygrace: was freaking roasting [20:50:32] angelcerv21: i've been chugging it too [20:50:36] angelcerv21: keeping the urine flow [20:50:40] angelcerv21: more i pee the better [20:50:44] guaaaache: I think I would die in a day. I seem to dehydrate really easily [20:50:49] angelcerv21: that means the weed is exiting my system [20:50:55] angelcerv21: yeah some do [20:51:06] angelcerv21: i'm gonna go, guys [20:51:12] guaaaache: I drink about 3 litres a day [20:51:12] guaaaache: lol [20:51:13] angelcerv21: same time next week? [20:51:17] guaaaache: all right [20:51:17] Flagrant3D3lict0: Nice to meet you all [20:51:19] Flagrant3D3lict0: I'm amigone on LJ [20:51:22] angelcerv21: yes you too [20:51:22] Flagrant3D3lict0: if you want to add me. [20:51:27] julieiskeygrace: yeah samesies :-) nice to meet you properly [20:51:29] angelcerv21: alright make a post [20:51:31] angelcerv21: on bp [20:51:37] guaaaache: nice chatting to you all [20:51:40] angelcerv21: bye guys [20:51:42] guaaaache: I should get going too [20:51:45] julieiskeygrace: night guys :-) [20:51:51] *** angelcerv21 has left the chat. [20:52:04] *** guaaaache has left the chat. [20:52:07] *** julieiskeygrace has left the chat. 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[21:50:46] PrettyKitty51015: i'm here too... >.> [21:50:47] PrettyKitty51015: <.< [21:50:52] Flagrant3D3lict0: huzzah! [21:50:56] Flagrant3D3lict0: you're... invisible. [21:50:57] PrettyKitty51015: I'm quite, quite late... [21:50:58] PrettyKitty51015: shhhh [21:51:00] PrettyKitty51015: lol [21:51:20] Flagrant3D3lict0: oh, ok!