BORING_PEOPLE Chat 9, Part 2 (09.04.10)

Cast of Characters, In Order of Appearance Laura, AKA raginghostility Angel, AKA angelcerv25 Julie, AKA keygrace Mikaela, AKA embryogirl me, AKA glowing_dragon Rose, AKA moonbathe (MadRayKin11) Laura A., AKA kitkatkrisp Steve, AKA nyquilsteve317 Flagrant3D3lict0, AKA Chandi (amigone) [21:16:04] guaaaache: you can't measure how hard someone is trying based on their progress [21:16:19] angelcerv21: since when? [21:16:28] guaaaache: it can be really embarrassing for some people to try and speak in a language they're not confident in [21:16:38] madraykin11: exactly.. [21:16:39] guaaaache: especially when a lot of people are cunts about it [21:16:41] grritsRawRa: i sucked at spanish. [21:16:57] angelcerv21: so? I have to do it for learning sign language - lots of embarrassing moments. but in a deaf culture, it's what you do, out of respect [21:17:17] angelcerv21: man, i made so many weird signs [21:17:20] angelcerv21: i would be so nervous [21:17:24] Flami: my brother and sister-in-law are in Italy right now [21:17:25] angelcerv21: but practice makes perfect [21:17:35] guaaaache: and did deaf people yell at you when you got it wrong? I bet they didn't [21:17:53] angelcerv21: no, but what does that have to do with anything? They would correct me, teach me [21:17:56] angelcerv21: some got impatient [21:17:57] guaaaache: people seriously make fun of people here if they don't even know the local slang [21:18:01] angelcerv21: but that's understandable [21:18:45] angelcerv21: everyone in any culture will make fun of those who don't know the local stuff [21:18:47] angelcerv21: so what? [21:18:51] angelcerv21: it's the way humans are [21:19:01] guaaaache: they see it as a sign of them not being any good at english [21:19:04] angelcerv21: helps us get comfortable with surroundings, helps us learn [21:19:04] madraykin11: no, that's the way stupid humans are [21:19:17] angelcerv21: then humans are stupid [21:19:23] madraykin11: it's ridiculous to make fun of someone for not knowing local slang [21:19:24] angelcerv21: hell, animals are morally superior to us [21:20:06] angelcerv21: i don't even know all my local slang. But some mexican slang? I know that. each experience is unique and different [21:20:29] guaaaache: OH REALLY, NO SHIT [21:20:38] guaaaache: I was kind of saying that before [21:20:43] angelcerv21: what I'm saying is not that big a deal - try and learn the language. out of respect. Culture is rooted in language [21:20:56] angelcerv21: if you go to a new one and expect to stay [21:20:58] grritsRawRa: i sense tension. D: [21:21:04] angelcerv21: expect to learn some of that culture [21:21:05] guaaaache: yes, but it helps to receive respect for your efforts [21:21:08] angelcerv21: therefore, that language [21:21:15] guaaaache: which a lot of people do not get here no matter how hard they try [21:21:17] angelcerv21: i never said it doesn't help [21:21:23] madraykin11: good lord. [21:21:32] angelcerv21: i said it doesn't help to give them no incentive to try [21:21:34] guaaaache: you implied that it's not necessary [21:21:45] guaaaache: and being rude to them doesn't give them much incentive [21:21:48] angelcerv21: sorry you mistook me [21:22:09] angelcerv21: i also am not rude to them [21:22:13] madraykin11: you know, I'd be less likely to learn the language and culture when it's represented as being so elitist and uppity [21:22:16] angelcerv21: please do not misinterpret what i say [21:22:24] angelcerv21: that's america for you [21:22:29] guaaaache: it's not at all respectful to expect people to speak english at all times, even when what they're saying is not important or relevant to you [21:22:29] angelcerv21: i can't wait to leave [21:22:41] madraykin11: lol, you're saying everything a typical american would say! [21:22:51] angelcerv21: and? [21:23:03] madraykin11: hope you plan on going to canada, you know. wouldn't want to have to learn a new language / culture.. [21:23:17] angelcerv21: i would expect to at least get a reply in english if i asked them what language they were speaking. I was only curious about it [21:23:14] guaaaache: my computer is dying [21:23:30] *** guaaaache has left the conversation. [21:23:31] angelcerv21: they were the uppity rude ones [21:23:42] angelcerv21: uppity rudeness is in all cultures, all languages [21:23:59] angelcerv21: and no, I'm not going to canada, though i thought about it [21:24:09] angelcerv21: i'm interested in a university in australia [21:24:20] angelcerv21: i have a possible sponsor [21:24:30] madraykin11: so, you're letting one rude response make you stereotype an entire group of people? [21:24:32] angelcerv21: the uni has a cool grad psych program [21:24:47] madraykin11: figures that you're a psych student [21:24:49] angelcerv21: i'm not stereotyping an entire group of people [21:25:01] angelcerv21: though what I've learned about middle eastern culture is certainly not something i respect [21:25:20] angelcerv21: i'm very disappointed in their lack of ability to grow into the 21st century [21:25:40] angelcerv21: that's just my opinion [21:25:47] angelcerv21: i've spent a lot of time studying it [21:25:49] madraykin11: I think you should befriend some people from the middle east. actually talk to them. you'd be surprised. the ones I know are nicer and more open-minded than many americans [21:26:10] angelcerv21: I tried, did you not see me post that? [21:26:25] angelcerv21: I've worked with them, spent time in class with them, gotten to know some of them [21:26:54] madraykin11: try harder ;) maybe your blatant dislike for them shows. [21:26:57] angelcerv21: I experienced nothing but arrogance, rudeness, sometimes hostility. I don't think they're all like that [21:27:02] madraykin11: I'm going to sleep... [21:27:04] madraykin11: sigh. [21:27:09] angelcerv21: fine, bye [21:27:20] Flami: Madraykin: YOUR blatant dislike [21:27:26] angelcerv21: apparently [21:27:33] madraykin11: yeah, I'm so tired. [21:27:40] angelcerv21: stop assuming, madraykin [21:27:42] grritsRawRa: who else is here? [21:27:45] Flami: excuses, excuses [21:27:45] angelcerv21: i don't have blatant dislike for anyone [21:27:49] Flami: just us four [21:28:09] angelcerv21: i'm actually a really nice person [21:28:11] madraykin11: my grammar fails when I'm asleep, k? ;P [21:28:13] angelcerv21: sorry you think otherwise [21:28:18] Flami: sure..... [21:28:32] angelcerv21: but people piss me off a lot! for reasons like these. Assuming things [21:28:36] *** grritsRawRa has left the conversation. [21:28:44] madraykin11: sorry you're kinda racist. hope you grow out of being hateful :) [21:28:48] *** madraykin11 has left the conversation. [21:28:54] angelcerv21: hahaha, alena, you kill me [21:29:14] Flami: hey, I had to throw that in there. that's one of my pet peeves [21:29:21] angelcerv21: pretty much [21:29:33] angelcerv21: of course had to throw some more in before she signs out real quick [21:29:34] Flami: no matter how sleepy I get, I've never messed "your / you're" up :P [21:29:48] angelcerv21: I know, it's not that hard [21:30:00] angelcerv21: who is madraykin on bp? [21:30:25] Flami: moonbathe, AKA Rose [21:30:30] angelcerv21: ah [21:30:33] angelcerv21: yeah, I see on bp now [21:32:07] Flami: ha, I thought she posted something on there [21:32:16] *** tallymonster622 has joined the conversation. [21:32:29] tallymonster622: i'm in, yeah! :-D [21:32:37] Flami: LAURA! YOU JUST MISSED THE MOST INTENSE CONVERSATION EVER! [21:32:42] angelcerv21: yeah, you did [21:32:46] tallymonster622: D: [21:32:46] angelcerv21: i'm leaving a comment for her on bp [21:32:48] tallymonster622: DAMNIT [21:33:02] tallymonster622: OH... hey, angel, did you get the doll yet? [21:33:18] *** guaaaache has joined the conversation. [21:33:38] angelcerv21: no, but i got a notice from the post office [21:33:43] angelcerv21: it's here!!!! [21:33:49] angelcerv21: but i have to wait till damn labor day is over [21:33:49] tallymonster622: :-D YAY! [21:33:53] tallymonster622: awwwww [21:33:55] tallymonster622: fail! [21:34:04] angelcerv21: guaaache is back, where did you go? [21:34:29] tallymonster622: bathroom? [21:34:38] Flami: her computer died or something [21:35:00] angelcerv21: oh yeah [21:35:21] angelcerv21: i can't wait for my Lady Gaga doll !!!!!!! [21:35:27] angelcerv21: i will hug her and kiss her [21:35:32] angelcerv21: maybe even masturbate with her [21:35:37] tallymonster622: oh man, i'm like moving my room around, and there's crap all over |:< [21:35:40] tallymonster622: O_O [21:35:46] tallymonster622: wow.... lol [21:36:00] Flami: I was going to say "as long as you don't use it like a sex toy...." [21:36:00] angelcerv21: hahahaha [21:36:05] tallymonster622: i saw a hentai like that once [21:36:06] angelcerv21: hahahahaha, too bad [21:36:12] angelcerv21: plushies and furries [21:36:21] angelcerv21: people who fuck stuffed animals, or dress up like them and fuck [21:36:23] tallymonster622: no, a girl that used a doll to masturbate [21:36:30] tallymonster622: it was strange [21:36:32] Flami: yikes [21:36:45] tallymonster622: yeah..... those hentai can get weird [21:36:56] angelcerv21: that's not that weird [21:37:12] angelcerv21: i've used towels and pillows and shit for sexual pleasure [21:37:23] angelcerv21: a stuffed animal? [21:37:28] angelcerv21: not that weird [21:37:35] angelcerv21: doll? not that weird [21:37:41] tallymonster622: i have so much crap all over my room. [21:37:48] tallymonster622: and on my bed. [21:37:50] angelcerv21: but i seem to have a VERY different viewpoint than my fellow humans [21:37:56] Flami: this kimchi really is not spicy enough, haha [21:37:58] tallymonster622: on the floor. :/ [21:38:07] angelcerv21: why are you all messy, laura? [21:38:17] tallymonster622: i'm moving my furniture around [21:38:25] angelcerv21: oh, that's fun [21:38:26] tallymonster622: i'm getting a desk in here [21:38:50] guaaaache: kimchi which is not spicy sucks [21:38:55] tallymonster622: so my mom told me to make room. and i wanted to see if my bed looked alright under my window. [21:38:57] angelcerv21: what is kimchi? [21:39:17] tallymonster622: and when i moved my armoire, it fell apart [21:39:19] Flami: yeah... it's spicy for some people, but not for me.. haha, which might say something about me :P [21:39:26] Flami: kimchi is Korean pickled cabbage [21:39:30] tallymonster622: so i had to hammer it together again [21:39:31] angelcerv21: i love things hella spicy, too [21:39:44] angelcerv21: i hate moving furniture [21:39:57] angelcerv21: something always breaks, hahahahahaha [21:40:04] tallymonster622: found out that the armoire was held together by duct tape [21:40:11] angelcerv21: pickled cabbage... that sounds good [21:40:14] tallymonster622: :/ fml [21:40:15] angelcerv21: i like pickled stuff [21:40:30] guaaaache: it's picked with chilli [21:40:41] guaaaache: like saurcraute (i cant spell it) but korean style [21:40:44] Flami: that sucks, Laura [21:40:51] Flami: sauerkraut [21:40:55] guaaaache: thanks [21:40:55] tallymonster622: yeah |:< [21:41:03] angelcerv21: asian food is the shit. But when it comes down to it, i like greek food the best [21:41:18] guaaaache: I like all food [21:41:21] guaaaache: except mcdonalds [21:41:22] angelcerv21: hahahaha [21:41:26] guaaaache: but it's not really food, so it doesn't count [21:41:28] tallymonster622: i was so pissed. but i got it back together, and it still wobbles, but i hope the weight of my tv can hold it. [21:41:33] angelcerv21: i'm on a see-food diet - see food, i eat it [21:41:35] Flami: yikes [21:41:40] Flami: haha, Angel [21:41:49] tallymonster622: xD lawl, oh angel. [21:41:56] guaaaache: hey, you guys [21:42:01] guaaaache: I have a bit of a problem [21:42:01] angelcerv21: yeah? [21:42:13] tallymonster622: yeah? [21:42:15] guaaaache: I invited one of my friends to stay at my house next week, but I just recently decided that I dont like them anymore [21:42:22] tallymonster622: oh, snap [21:42:28] angelcerv21: really? just... decided? why? [21:42:29] guaaaache: and I'll have to spend 3 days with them :S [21:42:42] Flami: awkward [21:42:47] guaaaache: well, I decided gradually over time [21:42:54] guaaaache: but I decided definitely last week [21:43:01] guaaaache: because I think they're annoying [21:43:01] angelcerv21: they were being a dickhole? [21:43:05] tallymonster622: wow. that's going to suck [21:43:14] angelcerv21: cancel [21:43:20] angelcerv21: just say nevermind [21:43:24] guaaaache: they already bought their bus ticket [21:43:27] angelcerv21: i'm too blunt, i think.... [21:43:32] angelcerv21: oh dear [21:43:34] tallymonster622: ooooh [21:43:35] Flami: shit [21:43:36] tallymonster622: ouch [21:43:38] guaaaache: I will have to tell them at some point that I don't really want to talk to them [21:43:38] angelcerv21: yeah [21:43:45] angelcerv21: at the end of the stay [21:43:49] angelcerv21: say that [21:43:49] tallymonster622: do it after they get home? [21:43:59] guaaaache: I don't like the ignoring tactic that a lot of people use [21:44:08] guaaaache: I'd rather close the deal (or whatever) [21:44:11] angelcerv21: right, so say that you're done [21:44:15] angelcerv21: and want to move on [21:44:21] angelcerv21: chances are, they might feel the same way [21:44:27] guaaaache: they like me romantically, too, which is super-awkward [21:44:32] Flami: YIKES [21:44:33] angelcerv21: oh, it's a guy? [21:44:40] angelcerv21: or a girl who is a lesbian? [21:44:41] guaaaache: yeah [21:44:44] angelcerv21: ok [21:44:45] guaaaache: a guy [21:45:01] angelcerv21: what about him turns you off? [21:45:21] guaaaache: I'll try to explain it, but it will sound a bit mean [21:45:35] guaaaache: he was beaten up by 3 strangers about 10 years ago, right? [21:45:48] guaaaache: so obviously, he's had a lot of psychological and physical problems because of that [21:45:51] guaaaache: which I accept [21:45:58] guaaaache: but he talks about it all the time [21:46:04] angelcerv21: hmm [21:46:10] tallymonster622: like he never got over it? [21:46:15] angelcerv21: extroverted, too [21:46:22] guaaaache: like, literally every conversation we have, he finds a way to slip in "that time I got the shit kicked out of me," no matter what the topic is [21:46:27] angelcerv21: i have experienced beatings and rape, but i refuse to talk about it [21:46:31] angelcerv21: even with my psych [21:46:41] tallymonster622: maybe he wants sympathy? [21:46:44] angelcerv21: sure [21:46:45] guaaaache: he doesn't [21:46:49] angelcerv21: or attention [21:46:50] guaaaache: he just wants to mention it [21:46:50] tallymonster622: /shrug [21:47:03] guaaaache: I already know all the details, so I don't understand why he keeps mentioning it to me [21:47:10] angelcerv21: did you say that to him? [21:47:20] guaaaache: I don't know how to without seeming insensitive [21:47:44] angelcerv21: (I'm drunk, just thought I'd let you all know, perhaps some of you know my experience with the wine bottle from earlier) [21:47:52] angelcerv21: well, you might have to say it [21:48:13] angelcerv21: but you have the right if you are his friend [21:48:31] angelcerv21: and i don't think it's that insensitive to say, "you mention this a lot, but i already know what happened..." [21:48:37] angelcerv21: you know? [21:48:44] guaaaache: but I want to tell him that it's really annoying! [21:48:49] guaaaache: but I feel like I can't [21:48:50] guaaaache: this is not the only thing, though [21:49:01] tallymonster622: what else is there? [21:49:05] *** grritsRawRa has joined the conversation. [21:49:07] grritsRawRa: Marco? [21:49:11] angelcerv21: polo [21:49:14] tallymonster622: POLE [21:49:16] tallymonster622: FUCK [21:49:19] grritsRawRa: pole. haha [21:49:21] grritsRawRa: XD [21:49:27] guaaaache: he always calls people he doesn't like 'fags' [21:49:31] angelcerv21: ouch [21:49:36] grritsRawRa: i hate that word. [21:49:37] guaaaache: and when I tried to talk about THAT, it didn't end well [21:49:38] angelcerv21: that one is straight up rude [21:49:40] tallymonster622: ew [21:49:56] guaaaache: a summary of our conversation is this: [21:49:59] angelcerv21: i would be blunt. "don't use that word in my presence!!" [21:50:14] guaaaache: me: "don't say that, it's offensive." him: "no, it isn't" [21:50:27] angelcerv21: and you could say "it is to me" [21:50:31] guaaaache: I did [21:50:40] guaaaache: and he kept trying to elaborately explain to me why it's actually not offensive at all [21:50:42] angelcerv21: did you ask him to not use it in your presence? [21:50:49] guaaaache: basically said I was wrong to think it's offensive because it's actually not [21:50:50] angelcerv21: no matter what he thinks? [21:50:51] Flami: "come out" to him, and see what he says [21:50:57] angelcerv21: hahahahahaha [21:51:01] angelcerv21: oh my god, hahahahahaha [21:51:04] angelcerv21: yeah!!! [21:51:12] tallymonster622: OMG, that's a great idea! [21:51:45] guaaaache: he would probably say something like, "well, I don't mean fag to refer to gay people anyway, so that's irrelevant" [21:52:06] angelcerv21: still though, even if he thinks it's not offensive for whatever reason, ask him to not use it in your presence [21:52:07] tallymonster622: /:< [21:52:13] angelcerv21: that's something [21:52:17] guaaaache: I did, that's what our whole conversation was about [21:52:29] guaaaache: and he kept trying to convince me that I was wrong because it's apparently not offensive at all [21:52:35] Flami: "what if one of the people you don't like is gay? I know you're not using it to refer to a cigarette or a bundle of wood" [21:52:54] angelcerv21: he's on the defense [21:53:08] angelcerv21: he knows, indirectly, that it is offensive [21:53:24] guaaaache: of course, why else would be say it? [21:53:25] angelcerv21: but he tries to defend its use anyway [21:53:43] guaaaache: he's using it as an insult, after all [21:53:45] angelcerv21: if he refused to stop using it in your presence, it's time to call it off [21:54:10] Flami: definitely [21:54:25] guaaaache: yeah. I'm going to tell him all of this. he has other friends in the city if he still comes here [21:55:08] grritsRawRa: a bundle of wood? people call it that? [21:55:13] guaaaache: did [21:55:17] Flami: before [21:55:19] guaaaache: that was faggot, though [21:55:27] grritsRawRa: thats weird. [21:55:29] Flami: ah, true [21:55:37] guaaaache: fag was cigarette [21:55:52] Flami: haha, I got too enthusiastic [21:56:24] guaaaache: lol [21:56:38] guaaaache: I guess I feel bad not letting this guy come because I feel a bit sorry for him [21:56:44] guaaaache: but I will tell him to stop mentioning the beating [21:56:58] guaaaache: or any violence-related stuff that he randomly talks about [21:57:20] guaaaache: and maybe if I say, "I just can't be friends with people who think it's ok to say 'fag' as an insult" [21:57:31] guaaaache: I mean, sometimes people have to be pretty blunt with me, so I figure i should give others the same chance [21:57:40] guaaaache: but if that fails, that will be the end [21:58:16] Flami: DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR HIM. HE JUST WANTS YOUR PITY [21:58:22] tallymonster622: totally random, but i wish i had some chili right now. [21:58:37] *** NyquilSteve317 has joined the conversation. [21:59:20] NyquilSteve317: hey, peeps [21:59:20] tallymonster622: hey, steve [21:59:24] grritsRawRa: chili sounds so delicious right now [21:59:25] NyquilSteve317: hi, laura [21:59:25] tallymonster622: i know, right?!?!?! [21:59:25] tallymonster622: ugh, man, i wish my brother didn't have the last of it [21:59:28] grritsRawRa: oh, whoa. i forgot theres more than one Laura. [21:59:34] tallymonster622: lol [21:59:37] guaaaache: yeah, he probably does want it. I should give up on him [21:59:44] grritsRawRa: second of confusion just then. [21:59:56] guaaaache: and I will, after next week [21:59:56] tallymonster622: we should have like code names [22:00:11] guaaaache: if he doesn't get it after I explain it, there's no point [22:00:38] grritsRawRa: my phone has water damage. and the screen is screwing up because of it. [22:00:57] tallymonster622: time to get a new one, i suppose [22:01:13] grritsRawRa: we cant upgrade till, like, july or something. [22:01:18] NyquilSteve317: whats everyone up to? [22:01:23] tallymonster622: =-O that suuucks! [22:01:25] angelcerv21: intensity [22:01:32] guaaaache: discussing how to cut friends off, steve [22:01:35] tallymonster622: cleaning [22:01:37] guaaaache: suggestions? lol [22:01:40] NyquilSteve317: cutting friends off? [22:01:46] NyquilSteve317: why would you do that to your friends? [22:01:48] grritsRawRa: i moved. thats how i cut my friends off. [22:01:55] tallymonster622: hahahaha [22:02:02] guaaaache: because they're annoying, or not like a friend anymore [22:02:12] grritsRawRa: my best friend changed. and i didnt like it. [22:02:13] angelcerv21: i usuallly sabotage mine [22:02:14] NyquilSteve317: than just stop calling / answering calls [22:02:17] NyquilSteve317: be busy [22:02:26] NyquilSteve317: or, flat out tell them, "youre annoying the fuck out of me" [22:02:38] grritsRawRa: she kept ditching me. so i didnt feel bad when i left. [22:02:42] guaaaache: I like the last option the best. passive-agressiveness doesn't necessarily work [22:02:43] tallymonster622: i dumped my best friend ;) [22:02:52] NyquilSteve317: just spell it out very clearly [22:02:58] guaaaache: good idea [22:03:02] NyquilSteve317: these are the reasons i no longer want you in my life [22:03:14] tallymonster622: "i..... hate..... you... now get the fuck out of my house" [22:03:20] guaaaache: HAHA [22:03:30] guaaaache: it might come to that, tally [22:03:34] NyquilSteve317: i have pretty low standards for friends 1. don't fuck me over 2. don't be a douche 3. don't get me arrested [22:03:35] tallymonster622: xD [22:03:37] tallymonster622: awesome [22:03:46] NyquilSteve317: and yet i still don't have any cos i hate people [22:03:52] angelcerv21: same here [22:03:55] grritsRawRa: good rules to live by, steve. [22:03:56] guaaaache: i hate people, too. this is why this friend has to go [22:04:07] angelcerv21: madraykin would be pleased to see that... [22:04:09] tallymonster622: ok, well, it's time for me to clean up again... my little break is ovah. [22:04:16] NyquilSteve317: ok, later [22:04:17] guaaaache: anyone who seems remotely cool in the beginning seems to become an arsehole at some point [22:04:19] NyquilSteve317: and all that [22:04:22] tallymonster622: talk to you guys later :D [22:04:22] grritsRawRa: bye! [22:04:27] NyquilSteve317: well, everyone has their asshole moments [22:04:31] tallymonster622: buuuh bai [22:04:35] NyquilSteve317: it just depends on how big they are, and how they recover from them [22:04:45] NyquilSteve317: im dying [22:04:56] tallymonster622: OH, and before you masturbate with the doll, angel, let me know if you got it ;D [22:05:00] NyquilSteve317: i think my stomach lining has waged war on the rest of my body [22:05:05] angelcerv21: ok, i will [22:05:11] tallymonster622: k, talk to you guys later [22:05:13] NyquilSteve317: bye [22:05:13] guaaaache: it's hard to explain. it's like they get beyond the point of trying to impress, and being socially acceptable or whatever, and finally show what they really are [22:05:18] *** tallymonster622 has left the conversation. [22:05:28] guaaaache: I'm sure I do it, too [22:05:37] angelcerv21: we all do [22:05:48] NyquilSteve317: yeah [22:05:53] NyquilSteve317: thats why casual friends are good [22:05:56] angelcerv21: that's why i decided to not have friends [22:05:57] NyquilSteve317: not real friends [22:06:02] NyquilSteve317: and never overdo it [22:06:08] guaaaache: close friends get too scary, yes [22:06:08] NyquilSteve317: see them once or twice a month, etc [22:06:23] grritsRawRa: alright, guys, my dad is being a pissy girl. i gotta let him use my computer. [22:06:24] guaaaache: I see this person every few months at the moment [22:06:33] guaaaache: but it's still too much [22:06:36] angelcerv21: ok, see ya later [22:06:40] Flami: see ya [22:06:42] NyquilSteve317: well then, just cut em out [22:06:43] grritsRawRa: ill bbl. hope its still going. [22:06:46] NyquilSteve317: and be honest bout it [22:06:53] angelcerv21: cutting off is so easy for me, but others have a hard time with it [22:06:59] NyquilSteve317: the truth hurts worse than any lie could [22:07:05] NyquilSteve317: im with ya in that boat, angel [22:07:07] *** grritsRawRa has left the conversation. [22:07:11] guaaaache: yeah, I was going to say I have the flu, but left it until too late [22:07:15] NyquilSteve317: i can write people out of my life without hesitation or regret [22:07:16] angelcerv21: i get accused of being an asshole or intolerant, which i am in many ways... but goddamn, take a fucking hint!!!! [22:07:16] guaaaache: so meeting is inevitable now [22:07:27] guaaaache: lol [22:07:42] guaaaache: people don't take hints. I guess you have to be blunt [22:07:48] NyquilSteve317: yes [22:07:51] angelcerv21: it is so easy to cut off without any hesitation or regret [22:07:57] angelcerv21: i don't give a rat's ass what they think [22:08:00] NyquilSteve317: i just took a lot of ibuprofen [22:08:00] angelcerv21: what's over is over [22:08:04] NyquilSteve317: yup [22:08:05] guaaaache: why? [22:08:08] NyquilSteve317: no sense in crying at the past [22:08:09] angelcerv21: why, what? [22:08:14] angelcerv21: time to move on [22:08:17] guaaaache: ibuprofen [22:08:21] angelcerv21: oh [22:08:32] angelcerv21: i'm drinking for you, steve [22:08:41] NyquilSteve317: dying [22:08:45] NyquilSteve317: thanks, angel [22:08:50] NyquilSteve317: im really fucked up, i think [22:09:00] NyquilSteve317: i have an ulcer or something going way wrong in my stomach [22:09:00] angelcerv21: ulcers? [22:09:03] angelcerv21: yep [22:09:05] NyquilSteve317: im not sure [22:09:08] angelcerv21: sharp pain? [22:09:13] angelcerv21: dull pain? [22:09:19] NyquilSteve317: i mean, those of you who read my journals know i have been a little stressed [22:09:22] angelcerv21: hurts to breathe? [22:09:27] angelcerv21: yes [22:09:32] NyquilSteve317: its like someone grabbing my stomach, and it convulses every now and then [22:09:35] angelcerv21: stress.... i can relate [22:09:45] NyquilSteve317: sharp pain in the upper part [22:09:51] angelcerv21: convulses? like a growling? [22:09:53] guaaaache: that doesn't sound good [22:10:00] angelcerv21: upper part is where the stomach actually is [22:10:07] NyquilSteve317: no, like almost a dry heave that doesn't make it to my esophagus [22:10:11] angelcerv21: so it's not a kidney stone... that's good [22:10:21] guaaaache: that sounds like acid reflux or something [22:10:30] NyquilSteve317: painful [22:10:37] NyquilSteve317: i took some damn prilocex or whatever [22:10:41] NyquilSteve317: and then some immodium [22:10:43] angelcerv21: ibuprofen will likely make it worse [22:10:45] NyquilSteve317: didn't even touch it [22:10:50] angelcerv21: pepto? [22:10:48] NyquilSteve317: i figured it might [22:10:58] NyquilSteve317: but if i take enough, it might dull itself out [22:11:14] NyquilSteve317: no pepto in the house, i might have to go get some [22:11:22] angelcerv21: yes, pepto is better than most - it specifically coats the stomach's lining [22:11:30] angelcerv21: i've used it with decent results [22:11:44] NyquilSteve317: well, it needs something for sure... if i can't get comfy, i will run to a "stop and rob" and grab some [22:12:21] Flami: doesn't sound good, Steve [22:12:27] angelcerv21: milk may also help [22:12:35] NyquilSteve317: i drank a milkshake, it didn't touch it [22:12:41] NyquilSteve317: its almost double over in pain time [22:12:50] NyquilSteve317: and i have a very very high pain tolerance [22:12:50] angelcerv21: not a milkshake... all the sugar, of course, wouldn't help [22:12:54] angelcerv21: whole milk [22:12:57] NyquilSteve317: hrm [22:13:02] NyquilSteve317: i will see if we have any [22:13:28] angelcerv21: if it doesn't, there are chemicals in milk that help with sleep [22:13:34] angelcerv21: hence the "warm milk" thing [22:13:48] guaaaache: it does have to be warmed to activate the chemicals, though [22:13:51] NyquilSteve317: ic [22:13:53] NyquilSteve317: i just drove an hour [22:13:55] angelcerv21: yep [22:14:13] NyquilSteve317: gf's b-day is monday, so some friends came up, and we went down to ann arbor to eat good food and party [22:14:19] NyquilSteve317: and i bailed [22:14:24] NyquilSteve317: so now shes out skanking it up again [22:14:30] NyquilSteve317: and yet again, im not there [22:14:42] NyquilSteve317: they are getting drunk and staying in a hotel [22:15:04] NyquilSteve317: i have trust issues, but to not have trust issues makes you a fool [22:15:08] angelcerv21: yes [22:15:23] angelcerv21: makes sense [22:15:27] angelcerv21: see a doc, man [22:15:39] angelcerv21: if you have an ulcer, it's not just going to go away [22:15:40] NyquilSteve317: i had to get the fuck out, i wasn't planning on drinking anyways cos it would prob hurt too much [22:15:50] angelcerv21: well, not necessarily.... [22:15:51] NyquilSteve317: i could have gone to the hotel, but i would rather just come home and sleep here [22:16:06] angelcerv21: whiskey has incredible pain-killing properties [22:16:20] guaaaache: while at the same time burning out your stomach [22:16:23] guaaaache: you just can't feel it [22:16:30] angelcerv21: maybe that's what he needs... [22:16:44] NyquilSteve317: i just drank some milk, hasn't done anything yet [22:16:51] guaaaache: it could make it worse in the morning, that's all [22:16:53] Flami: aspirin and Southern Comfort [22:16:55] angelcerv21: what kind of milk? [22:16:59] angelcerv21: hahahaha, alena.... [22:17:12] NyquilSteve317: 2 percent [22:17:17] NyquilSteve317: no whole milk here [22:17:20] NyquilSteve317: or creamer [22:17:24] angelcerv21: i had a gnarly experience with soco once... don't know if i can drink that stuff ever again [22:17:31] angelcerv21: 2 percent is something [22:17:32] Flami: not that I advocate mixing aspirin with liquor normally, but.... [22:17:38] angelcerv21: try to drink a pop can's worth [22:17:53] angelcerv21: and no pills - that'll make it worse [22:18:02] angelcerv21: pepto, a coater, would be a better help [22:18:10] NyquilSteve317: yeah, im leaning towards pepto [22:18:18] NyquilSteve317: i just don't wanna leave the house [22:18:23] angelcerv21: but you have to drink like a third of the bottle [22:18:38] angelcerv21: those tiny little measuring cups are pathetic [22:18:50] Flami: I agree [22:18:52] angelcerv21: when i get awful stomach pain, I chug right out of the bottle, hahahaha [22:19:00] angelcerv21: it works, with milk [22:19:04] angelcerv21: for me at least [22:19:08] angelcerv21: and lying flat on my back [22:19:09] guaaaache: milk makes my stomach hurt [22:19:23] angelcerv21: for some reason, that helps me a lot with stomach pain [22:19:28] Flami: lactose intolerant? [22:19:31] NyquilSteve317: nope [22:19:33] guaaaache: no [22:19:37] NyquilSteve317: its been going on for about 2 days [22:19:37] angelcerv21: just what i was going to say [22:19:47] NyquilSteve317: and it got really, really, really fucking bad on the drive down to ann arbor [22:19:54] angelcerv21: did it make you cry? [22:20:03] NyquilSteve317: i don't cry [22:20:08] guaaaache: you should probably go to a hospital in that case [22:20:22] NyquilSteve317: im going to try and see what its going to do [22:20:24] Flami: good idea [22:20:25] angelcerv21: i don't cry, listen to mister tough man..... i cry if the pain is bad enough, and I have a VERY high pain tolerance [22:20:45] NyquilSteve317: i don't cry... i will get red eyes, but won't cry [22:20:52] angelcerv21: if it's enough to produce tears (a body's defense mechanism for things like pain), it's time to go to the hospital [22:21:07] NyquilSteve317: right, i think my tear ducts dried up or something [22:21:21] guaaaache: I had a problem like that before, and it ended up being stomach ulcers. caused by none other than excess alcohol consumption, oddly enough [22:21:21] angelcerv21: i can cry, but tears don't flow [22:21:32] angelcerv21: well, that makes sense [22:21:46] angelcerv21: too much alcohol can do that [22:21:54] NyquilSteve317: ha! amazing! [22:21:56] guaaaache: too much spirits, anyway [22:22:06] NyquilSteve317: see, i haven't been drinking nearly as much lately [22:22:12] NyquilSteve317: i think its stress [22:22:19] NyquilSteve317: and my love of spicy horrible food [22:22:24] guaaaache: yeah, I'm not saying it's the same for you, but you could have ulcers nonetheless [22:22:36] NyquilSteve317: just to fuck with my symptoms, i had a pizza with olives and onions to see if it made it worse... it didn't do anything [22:22:40] angelcerv21: it could be anything [22:23:00] angelcerv21: maybe you just got a bad stomach ache, a real bad one [22:23:02] angelcerv21: happens [22:23:09] NyquilSteve317: i have a friend who is a doctor, i will ask her tomorrow [22:23:10] guaaaache: not for 2 days for no reason [22:23:16] angelcerv21: bacteria, bird flu, swine flu [22:23:26] NyquilSteve317: i feel perfectly fine other than that [22:23:33] angelcerv21: hahhhahaha, just kidding [22:23:38] NyquilSteve317: it might be psychosomatic for all i know [22:23:43] angelcerv21: could be [22:23:54] NyquilSteve317: the brain can be a bitch [22:23:57] angelcerv21: people have felt pain in limbs that don't exist anymore [22:24:02] NyquilSteve317: yeah [22:24:05] guaaaache: yeah, phantom pain [22:24:10] NyquilSteve317: and ppl can make themselves sick [22:24:10] angelcerv21: the brain is a most wonderful delusion generator [22:24:24] angelcerv21: by just thinking about it [22:24:42] guaaaache: well, the biological and psychological are connected after all [22:24:49] angelcerv21: hypochondriacs often have genuine symptoms - they brought them about [22:25:08] guaaaache: yep [22:25:12] NyquilSteve317: its gotta be stress [22:25:15] NyquilSteve317: or a tumor [22:25:22] guaaaache: hahaha [22:25:24] guaaaache: narrows it down a bit [22:25:24] angelcerv21: tumors are typically not painful [22:25:30] angelcerv21: and are otherwise undetected [22:25:30] NyquilSteve317: right [22:25:55] angelcerv21: my ex texted: "eat good, stay strong" [22:25:56] NyquilSteve317: i didn't eat all day till about 1030 tonight [22:25:57] angelcerv21: right... [22:26:09] NyquilSteve317: wasn't hungry [22:26:13] NyquilSteve317: thought it would hurt [22:26:16] NyquilSteve317: probably made it worse [22:26:17] angelcerv21: i have eaten two sandwiches [22:26:29] NyquilSteve317: i wonder if something bready to soak up the stomach acid would work [22:26:31] angelcerv21: keep eating [22:26:31] NyquilSteve317: probably not [22:26:36] angelcerv21: well, it could [22:26:36] NyquilSteve317: oatmeal, maybe [22:26:45] angelcerv21: milk is helpful to me for that reason [22:26:53] angelcerv21: try oatmeal, cream of wheat, or bread [22:26:59] guaaaache: it's gotta be something mucusy [22:27:05] angelcerv21: ew [22:27:08] NyquilSteve317: yeah [22:27:13] guaaaache: so yeah, milk [22:27:18] NyquilSteve317: whats a strong alkali? [22:27:20] angelcerv21: drink it [22:27:23] Flami: porridge or congee [22:27:26] NyquilSteve317: baking soda? [22:27:30] angelcerv21: congee? [22:27:42] guaaaache: yum, I love congee [22:27:44] NyquilSteve317: i need a strong base or alkali [22:28:08] Flami: congee is great [22:28:12] NyquilSteve317: vinegar is a base, is it not? [22:28:18] angelcerv21: i think so [22:28:21] angelcerv21: tastes like shit, though [22:28:25] NyquilSteve317: yeah [22:28:30] NyquilSteve317: i have balsamic that is pretty good [22:28:35] angelcerv21: mix it with apple juice [22:28:39] NyquilSteve317: something to neutralize the acid [22:28:51] NyquilSteve317: brb, im gonna go fag it up [22:28:57] angelcerv21: apple juice! [22:28:57] angelcerv21: hahahha [22:29:16] guaaaache: I'm going to have to go [22:29:21] angelcerv21: aw, why? [22:29:42] Flami: Wikipedia the congee [22:29:44] guaaaache: I'm in the library and it's going to close in about half an hour. there's a couple of things I want to do like print stuff, and borrow some books [22:29:52] angelcerv21: oh ok [22:29:59] guaaaache: I made a nice congee once with minced pork, bok choy, and seaweed [22:30:00] angelcerv21: they let you on messengers in the library?? [22:30:05] angelcerv21: not allowed here [22:30:12] guaaaache: it's on my own computer, just using their network [22:30:16] angelcerv21: oh, ok [22:30:18] Flami: okay, then.... see you [22:30:23] angelcerv21: bye bye [22:30:27] guaaaache: see you around on b_p [22:30:32] angelcerv21: yep [22:30:35] *** guaaaache has left the conversation. [22:30:58] angelcerv21: just you, me, and steve [22:31:12] angelcerv21: i think the wine is giving me a headache [22:31:27] Flami: what happened with the wine bottle? [22:31:45] angelcerv21: well, it broke my corkscrew [22:31:53] angelcerv21: so i pushed it in the bottle [22:31:56] Flami: how?! [22:32:02] angelcerv21: with force [22:32:07] angelcerv21: and a pen [22:32:16] Flami: no... how did it break the corkscrew [22:32:18] angelcerv21: which released a spray of wine into my face and hair [22:32:22] angelcerv21: i'm not sure [22:32:28] angelcerv21: the metal literally snapped off [22:32:32] angelcerv21: i found the rest of it in the cork [22:32:42] angelcerv21: i was like, holy shit... [22:33:15] Flami: yikes! [22:33:21] angelcerv21: yeah, half the bottle is gone now [22:33:28] angelcerv21: little cork floating in there [22:33:42] Flami: I bet [22:35:23] angelcerv21: yeah, my head hurts [22:35:28] angelcerv21: advil time [22:37:27] NyquilSteve317: my pom loves to drag my clothes from the office hamper into the middle of the living room... i dunno why he feels so accomplished when this task is completed [22:37:44] angelcerv21: pomeranian? [22:37:50] NyquilSteve317: yeah [22:37:53] NyquilSteve317: he's a puppy [22:38:02] angelcerv21: you don't strike me as the guy who likes little dogs for some reason [22:38:08] NyquilSteve317: i don't [22:38:08] angelcerv21: i myself hate them [22:38:08] NyquilSteve317: gf does [22:38:10] angelcerv21: oh, i see [22:38:36] NyquilSteve317: hes pretty cool, though, cos he has big dogs as role models, so he isn't yappy or anything [22:38:36] angelcerv21: that's a plus [22:38:48] angelcerv21: i just don't like most dogs in general, I've realized [22:38:50] angelcerv21: people hate this about me [22:38:56] NyquilSteve317: to each their own [22:38:57] angelcerv21: "what?? how can you not like dogs??" [22:39:07] angelcerv21: jesus christ, what do you care???? [22:39:17] NyquilSteve317: i think theyre pretty fantastic, but it's like kids, i love my dogs but don't care for other ppls dogs [22:39:27] angelcerv21: hahahaha, kids [22:39:36] angelcerv21: we had this bitchin convo about breeding earlier [22:39:49] NyquilSteve317: childfree is a fun community [22:39:52] angelcerv21: i was all "I'm pro-abortion," and it was a firestorm after that [22:39:56] NyquilSteve317: why? [22:39:59] angelcerv21: good question [22:40:02] NyquilSteve317: i don't understand how it's even a debate [22:40:08] angelcerv21: neither do I! [22:40:17] NyquilSteve317: unless the ppl arguing wanna adopt the fetus [22:40:21] NyquilSteve317: then they should shut the fuck up [22:40:41] angelcerv21: but someone said, "each experience for each woman is totally different" or something [22:40:45] NyquilSteve317: the same ppl that bitch about abortion also bitch about welfare moms and unwed mothers and shit [22:40:46] angelcerv21: but to me, it's cut and dry [22:40:52] angelcerv21: i know [22:41:01] NyquilSteve317: world is overpopulated [22:41:04] angelcerv21: not willing to cough up the welfare for all these unwanted babies [22:41:10] NyquilSteve317: why bring another piece of shit human into it [22:41:16] angelcerv21: the world is dying [22:41:17] angelcerv21: that is reality [22:41:18] NyquilSteve317: yes it is [22:41:25] NyquilSteve317: its going to happen quick, too [22:41:28] angelcerv21: the number one environmental problem - overpopulation [22:41:34] NyquilSteve317: poof [22:41:42] NyquilSteve317: yup [22:41:43] angelcerv21: yep [22:41:45] NyquilSteve317: cos we all want goddamn kids [22:41:45] angelcerv21: and why??? [22:41:50] NyquilSteve317: genetic programming [22:41:56] angelcerv21: can't we be selfish for once, and live for ourselves?? [22:42:02] NyquilSteve317: its more selfish to have kids [22:42:03] angelcerv21: i encourage pregnant women to get abortions [22:42:19] angelcerv21: i see it as looking out for themselves, and doing the world a favor [22:42:22] NyquilSteve317: i encourage ppl to shoot the elderly [22:42:35] angelcerv21: the elderly... there's another problem [22:42:40] NyquilSteve317: baby boomers [22:42:45] NyquilSteve317: we're fucked [22:42:45] angelcerv21: that demographic - largely repuke and conservative [22:42:57] NyquilSteve317: theyre all living on easy street with no fucking concept of the world now [22:43:04] angelcerv21: yes [22:43:04] NyquilSteve317: they ruined our world for us [22:43:10] NyquilSteve317: and expect us to worship them [22:43:12] angelcerv21: and they continue to think of things in past tense [22:43:13] NyquilSteve317: like we owe them something [22:43:27] NyquilSteve317: and its like.... ya know im not going to be able to ever retire cos you got to retire at 55 [22:43:33] angelcerv21: i don't have that respect for elders thing, either [22:43:49] NyquilSteve317: i know some wise old folk, but i also know some wise 12yr olds [22:43:54] angelcerv21: they had it easy [22:43:57] NyquilSteve317: i usually don't get along well with most elderly [22:44:02] angelcerv21: now we have it fucked [22:44:03] NyquilSteve317: they did! [22:44:07] NyquilSteve317: and they fucked us over [22:44:13] NyquilSteve317: and don't even realize it [22:44:14] angelcerv21: they have an equal lack of respect for the young [22:44:15] NyquilSteve317: too fucking stupid [22:44:21] angelcerv21: outdated [22:44:31] angelcerv21: living in a past which isn't our reality, or the present reality [22:44:37] NyquilSteve317: My generation was the real beginning of the end [22:44:42] NyquilSteve317: it has gotten worse and worse [22:44:43] angelcerv21: how old are you? [22:44:45] NyquilSteve317: 29 [22:44:50] angelcerv21: i'm close - 25 [22:44:51] NyquilSteve317: the children of hippies [22:44:55] angelcerv21: yep [22:44:57] NyquilSteve317: of disco folks [22:45:07] NyquilSteve317: and then the 80's children were just a lost generation [22:45:14] NyquilSteve317: and now their kids are fucking retards [22:45:32] *** Flagrant3D3lict0 has joined the conversation. [22:45:33] angelcerv21: seems we're getting dumber and dumber [22:45:33] angelcerv21: hey, a new one [22:45:34] NyquilSteve317: devolving [22:45:34] Flagrant3D3lict0: I made it! [22:45:35] NyquilSteve317: hi [22:45:38] Flagrant3D3lict0: I'm not new. We chatted before. [22:45:39] angelcerv21: who are you on bp? [22:45:42] Flagrant3D3lict0: :-P [22:45:46] Flagrant3D3lict0: amigone [22:45:46] angelcerv21: that's right [22:45:50] Flagrant3D3lict0: we talked about us being a road trip away :-P [22:45:57] angelcerv21: oh yeah! [22:45:59] Flagrant3D3lict0: I work until 11:15 some saturdays [22:46:00] NyquilSteve317: do i like you? [22:46:05] NyquilSteve317: the name sounds familiar [22:46:06] Flagrant3D3lict0: Most people like me :-) [22:46:10] angelcerv21: you missed some serious intensity earlier - you did too, steve [22:46:14] NyquilSteve317: the abortion thing? [22:46:18] Flagrant3D3lict0: good intensity? [22:46:34] angelcerv21: that and the debate on language, learning them, culture, why I hate Islam [22:46:40] angelcerv21: i was called a racist [22:46:44] Flagrant3D3lict0: what?! [22:46:50] angelcerv21: by moonbathe, then she quickly signed out before i could reply [22:46:54] Flagrant3D3lict0: I hate religion in general [22:46:54] angelcerv21: i left her a comment on bp [22:47:00] angelcerv21: i do too [22:47:09] NyquilSteve317: Im absolutely a racist, i hate white people [22:47:18] Flagrant3D3lict0: so who's gonna add me on here and / or on LJ? I need new friends [22:47:18] angelcerv21: i hate all people [22:47:18] Flagrant3D3lict0: I'm not racist, I hate everyone. [22:47:23] Flagrant3D3lict0: Fuck people :-) [22:47:41] NyquilSteve317: oh, im so adding you if i haven't already [22:47:41] angelcerv21: i must be racist, because most cultures sicken me [22:47:42] angelcerv21: including this one [22:47:42] Flagrant3D3lict0: (literally if they'll let you!) [22:48:11] angelcerv21: amigone.... when's the last time you posted on bp? [22:48:17] angelcerv21: i wanna add you, too [22:49:03] Flagrant3D3lict0: I haven't posted in a hundred years. [22:49:06] angelcerv21: hahaha [22:49:11] Flagrant3D3lict0: soemtimes I comment. But I haven't much to say usually. [22:49:19] Flami: PHEW [22:49:23] angelcerv21: I haven't had much to say, either [22:49:40] angelcerv21: i posted my dream [22:49:40] NyquilSteve317: bars will be closing in 10 [22:49:44] angelcerv21: but only got 3 comments, two of which were mine [22:49:52] NyquilSteve317: last call [22:49:54] Flagrant3D3lict0: bars are closing? [22:49:56] angelcerv21: the dream was hella bloody! [22:50:02] angelcerv21: fuck that, i got a bar right here [22:50:02] NyquilSteve317: pick what stranger you're gonna fuck and make your way for the door [22:50:09] angelcerv21: hahahhahaha [22:50:10] Flagrant3D3lict0: I pick me :-D [22:50:13] NyquilSteve317: 150am here [22:50:15] angelcerv21: i pick steve [22:50:16] Flagrant3D3lict0: ahh [22:50:29] angelcerv21: it's 10:50 here [22:50:35] NyquilSteve317: lucky west coast [22:50:42] angelcerv21: yep [22:50:50] NyquilSteve317: people are horrible, i just look back and watch them like im not really there [22:50:58] NyquilSteve317: see how they act, see how they treat each other [22:51:02] NyquilSteve317: watch body language [22:51:11] NyquilSteve317: and its just like watching chimps in the wild [22:51:19] angelcerv21: animals are morally superior to humans [22:51:33] angelcerv21: they don't kill or hurt in the name of greed or some sky daddy [22:51:43] NyquilSteve317: sky cake! [22:51:46] angelcerv21: cake? [22:51:54] angelcerv21: oh damn, I forgot cake mix today [22:52:01] NyquilSteve317: patton oswald, sky cake.... youtube it [22:52:27] angelcerv21: i love how youtube can be a verb now... [22:52:35] NyquilSteve317: yes [22:52:39] NyquilSteve317: it's great [22:52:39] angelcerv21: what are you doing? youtubing [22:53:21] angelcerv21: my head hurts [22:53:20] NyquilSteve317: and scifi didn't have wrestling [22:53:17] angelcerv21: hahahaha, oh my god [22:53:13] NyquilSteve317: silly shit [22:53:12] NyquilSteve317: wow [22:53:10] NyquilSteve317: and mtv had music [22:53:08] Flagrant3D3lict0: and my back hurts. [22:53:06] NyquilSteve317: remember when cnn headline news used to have news [22:53:03] Flagrant3D3lict0: I'm bored :-( [22:53:33] NyquilSteve317: i think that ibuprofen is kickin in [22:53:40] NyquilSteve317: i hurt less [22:53:45] NyquilSteve317: i feel kinda loopy [22:53:56] NyquilSteve317: probably cos im tired [22:54:52] Flagrant3D3lict0: 4 days in a row at work is hard. [22:55:04] angelcerv21: i wish i had a job [22:55:18] angelcerv21: i'm searching frantically [22:55:41] angelcerv21: i hate craigslist right now - most of the job postings are scams [22:56:16] Flagrant3D3lict0: They always seem to be :-( [22:56:28] Flagrant3D3lict0: we had 5 people die in two days at work [22:56:35] Flagrant3D3lict0: 4 of them had been there two months or longer. [22:56:38] Flagrant3D3lict0: It was really tough. [22:56:49] Flami: yikes [22:56:53] angelcerv21: 5 died? of what? [22:56:57] NyquilSteve317: are you a crash test dummy? [22:57:03] angelcerv21: hahahahaha [22:57:12] angelcerv21: sorry, that was just funny [22:57:41] Flagrant3D3lict0: one had lung cancer, one had ALS, one had end-stage dementia, another also had lung cancer, and the last one had hepatic encephalopathy. [22:57:49] NyquilSteve317: wtf [22:58:03] angelcerv21: what's the hepatic one? [22:58:10] NyquilSteve317: nasty swelling [22:58:11] angelcerv21: what's ALS? [22:58:15] NyquilSteve317: a bacteria, right? [22:58:27] angelcerv21: and why was a person with dementia working? [22:58:33] angelcerv21: how are they capable of work? [22:58:44] Flagrant3D3lict0: They're not. I work at a hospice. [22:58:48] Flagrant3D3lict0: I was at work. [22:58:50] angelcerv21: ooooohhhh, i see [22:58:51] NyquilSteve317: oh [22:58:52] NyquilSteve317: ok [22:58:59] NyquilSteve317: i had a student that did that job [22:59:03] NyquilSteve317: i dunno how she did it [22:59:07] NyquilSteve317: and she loved her job [22:59:09] NyquilSteve317: and loved the ppl [22:59:17] angelcerv21: it wouldn't be too bad, I don't think [22:59:28] angelcerv21: if you're incapable of forming human bonds - like me - it would be easy [22:59:33] NyquilSteve317: yeah [22:59:33] Flagrant3D3lict0: Hepatic encephalopathy is something that can happen with liver disease - they get confused, and it can affect the brain. Long enough, it kills you. [22:59:41] Flagrant3D3lict0: It's hard. But I wouldn't trade it. [22:59:47] NyquilSteve317: but she loved so many of her patients [22:59:48] NyquilSteve317: and then, boop, dead [22:59:59] angelcerv21: they're usually old folks [23:00:02] NyquilSteve317: yes [23:00:04] Flagrant3D3lict0: angel - nope. [23:00:07] NyquilSteve317: no? [23:00:15] Flagrant3D3lict0: we've had a bunch of 50-60s go this month [23:00:21] angelcerv21: i would call that old [23:00:24] Flagrant3D3lict0: my youngest was 36 [23:00:25] NyquilSteve317: a lot of hers were elderly [23:00:28] Flagrant3D3lict0: brain tumor. [23:00:32] NyquilSteve317: what a pisser [23:00:33] Flagrant3D3lict0: she had an 8 month old :-( [23:00:37] angelcerv21: damn [23:00:44] angelcerv21: father? [23:00:49] NyquilSteve317: going along all hunky dory, boom! brain cancer.. dead [23:00:52] Flagrant3D3lict0: woke up one morning throwing up, and dead two months later. [23:00:52] Flagrant3D3lict0: Yep. [23:01:02] angelcerv21: sometimes I wish that would happen to me [23:01:03] Flagrant3D3lict0: daddy was there to help. When she died, he looked like a lost little boy. [23:01:07] NyquilSteve317: puts the whole life thing in perspective [23:01:28] Flagrant3D3lict0: It really does, steve. [23:01:40] Flagrant3D3lict0: If I show up at work feeling sorry for myself over something, my attitude is changed quickly [23:01:46] angelcerv21: i'm struggling with figuring out the value of life, if there is any [23:01:59] NyquilSteve317: well, it's the only guarantee you have [23:02:04] angelcerv21: death? [23:02:14] NyquilSteve317: yes, life and death [23:02:18] NyquilSteve317: you are alive now [23:02:19] NyquilSteve317: and you will die [23:02:22] Flagrant3D3lict0: the value is what you make of it. [23:02:23] NyquilSteve317: after that [23:02:30] NyquilSteve317: its all up in the air [23:02:48] angelcerv21: i don't see much value to life right now [23:02:53] NyquilSteve317: in a way, it could be like "whats the point of riding that rollercoaster if you're just gonna give me a drug that doesn't let me remember it" [23:03:10] NyquilSteve317: so what does any of it matter [23:03:14] angelcerv21: mostly, it has been pain and more pain, and then betrayal and then some pain, or maybe being all numb which is sometimes worse than pain [23:03:26] NyquilSteve317: and on the same note... this is all i know, this is all i have, so im gonna go batshit and have fun [23:03:32] Flagrant3D3lict0: It matters while you're alive :-) [23:03:40] NyquilSteve317: enjoy it [23:03:41] NyquilSteve317: savor it [23:03:49] angelcerv21: ugh, it's a fight [23:03:53] angelcerv21: tired of fighting [23:03:58] NyquilSteve317: know that every second i spend in line, in traffic doing something i don't like is time i will never ever, ever get back [23:04:18] NyquilSteve317: and to just have that 2 minutes i wasted in line at the grocery store when im dying will seem like a lifetime [23:04:39] NyquilSteve317: to just have that back [23:04:51] NyquilSteve317: then again, dying might be the raddest thing ever [23:04:52] angelcerv21: when it's time to die, I will be excited [23:04:55] NyquilSteve317: but something tells me it's not [23:05:04] Flagrant3D3lict0: I've watched it happen. It's pretty plain [23:05:06] NyquilSteve317: we have no concept of nothing [23:05:15] angelcerv21: i want a doctor to tell me i'm dying of something [23:05:19] Flagrant3D3lict0: People who have it happen when they're awake are usually pretty scared. [23:05:23] NyquilSteve317: its rather anti-climactic [23:05:23] angelcerv21: or that i have cancer [23:05:34] Flagrant3D3lict0: It's a reverse climax. More of a denouement. Resolution. [23:05:39] NyquilSteve317: we don't know what nothing is [23:05:44] NyquilSteve317: never experienced it [23:05:56] Flagrant3D3lict0: When you're dying, you better hope that the climax of your life has happened already. [23:06:10] angelcerv21: what climax? that was birth. it's all downhill from there [23:06:14] NyquilSteve317: well, this is fucking bumming me out [23:06:27] NyquilSteve317: i need a fag [23:06:29] NyquilSteve317: bbs [23:06:31] Flagrant3D3lict0: kk [23:06:35] angelcerv21: i gotta sleep [23:06:41] angelcerv21: head hurts, feel gross [23:06:46] angelcerv21: see you guys later [23:06:58] Flami: later [23:06:58] *** angelcerv21 has left the conversation. [23:08:57] *** Flagrant3D3lict0 has left the conversation. [23:13:30] *** NyquilSteve317 has left the conversation.